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2006\07\26@163931 by Xiaofan Chen

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After 18 hours of direct flight from Singapore to New York and one hour of
transit flight to Cleveland, I am in US again. The company is in a nearby
small city and the environment is actually quite nice.

I was in US before but I was mostly surrounded by Chinese students, Chinese
supervisors, Chinese food and Chinese language. I know that is not the real US.

So this time I am having mostly American food (even the Chinese food here
is too much Americanized), surrounded by American colleagues, mostly
using English. Today we went to watch the baseball game (the Indians lost to
the Tiger 1:4)  and we were taking very nice car (quite long with a small bar)
which I only saw once in LA.

Then I was watching TVs and it is said that the government is pouring
big money to try to create more jobs in the Cleveland area.

I think this is more real US...

I hope I can drive...

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\07\26@171039 by Marcel duchamp

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
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If you can drive in Singapore, then you can easily drive in the US.
Please note that it is not legal to drive on the sidewalks or in the
on-coming lane.

Of course, maybe it was only the Singapore taxi drivers that did that
when I was there.  All I know is that it was one hell of an exciting ride!

2006\07\26@172139 by David VanHorn

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> I was in US before but I was mostly surrounded by Chinese students,
> Chinese
> supervisors, Chinese food and Chinese language. I know that is not the
> real US.


Ni Hao!   I hope your butt is not terminally flat.  I remember those loooong
flights to Taiwan that I used to make.


> Then I was watching TVs and it is said that the government is pouring
> big money to try to create more jobs in the Cleveland area.
>
> I think this is more real US...



Cleveland is pretty "real" all right!  Welcome.   You're not all that far
from me.

2006\07\26@173940 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:

> I hope I can drive...

Just go by the rules and don't rush it... The US is one nice place to
drive. (You'll hear them complain about the crazy traffic during rush hour
in LA, but that's still quite nice compared to many other places :)

Gerhard

2006\07\26@190745 by Howard Winter

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Gerhard,

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:39:14 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> Xiaofan Chen wrote:
>
> > I hope I can drive...
>
> Just go by the rules and don't rush it... The US is one nice place to
> drive. (You'll hear them complain about the crazy traffic during rush hour
> in LA, but that's still quite nice compared to many other places :)

...like Manhatten!  Since I got my driving licence I've driven about 750,000 miles, in over a dozen countries on three continents, on both
sides of the road, and I still feel like I've had a major achievement whenever I drive in Manhatten without being involved in a collision!  
:-)

And unlike in LA (and in the UK) it seems that in NYC pedestrian crossings seem to be advisory as far as traffic is concerned - cars tend
to nose their way through crowds of crossing pedestrians!

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\07\26@201441 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Howard Winter wrote:

>> Just go by the rules and don't rush it... The US is one nice place to
>> drive.

> ...like Manhatten!  

I've heard that NYC is not quite like the USA... :)

Gerhard

2006\07\27@004641 by Gus S Calabrese

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One of the best places to drive for me is the U.K.
I once passed a queue of about 100 cars without realizing they were  
all waiting for a
construction delay to end.  When I got to the front, the driver in  
the front car asked me
what I was doing.  I said,  "oh, i am sorry, I see i have jumped  
ahead of all these cars"

He smiled and waved me in front of him.  He turned and shouted to the  
car behind him,
" it's a yank"  this phrase was shouted on down the line of cars as  
far as I could hear.
AGSC

On 2006-Jul 26, at 17:07hrs PM, Howard Winter wrote:

Gerhard,

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:39:14 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote:

> Xiaofan Chen wrote:
>
>> I hope I can drive...
>
> Just go by the rules and don't rush it... The US is one nice place to
> drive. (You'll hear them complain about the crazy traffic during  
> rush hour
> in LA, but that's still quite nice compared to many other places :)

...like Manhatten!  Since I got my driving licence I've driven about  
750,000 miles, in over a dozen countries on three continents, on both
sides of the road, and I still feel like I've had a major achievement  
whenever I drive in Manhatten without being involved in a collision!
:-)

And unlike in LA (and in the UK) it seems that in NYC pedestrian  
crossings seem to be advisory as far as traffic is concerned - cars tend
to nose their way through crowds of crossing pedestrians!

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\07\27@023017 by Rich

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Hi Xiaofan Chen:
Can you say exactly where near New York you were?  I agree that the Chinese
food here is too Americanized.  But good marketing flavors toward the
American pallet to increase sales.  I enjoy the food in China much more.
There are a few places in America where the food is more authentic, if you
know where to go.  I think the worst Chinese food I ever ate was in
Amsterdam.
Glad you enjoyed your stay.  Sometimes America gets an unduly bad press.







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2006\07\27@043350 by Howard Winter

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Gus,

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:46:38 -0600, Gus S Calabrese wrote:

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ROFL!  He was passing the message so that the lynch mob could be disbanded... queueing is national passtime, and queue-jumping is a
hanging offence, but "being a foreigner" is a valid defence!  :-)

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\07\27@083654 by Peiserma

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piclist-bounces@mit.edu wrote:
>> Then I was watching TVs and it is said that the government is pouring
>> big money to try to create more jobs in the Cleveland area.
>>
>> I think this is more real US...
>
>
>
> Cleveland is pretty "real" all right!  Welcome.   You're not all that
> far from me.

And roundabout 20 miles from me. Welcome to our little corner of the
world. Hope you get to spend some time sightseeing.

2006\07\27@090531 by Mark Scoville

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Hi Xiaofan - Welcome to Cleveland - I hope you have a nice time during your
visit. Someone on the list worked for Pepperel&Fuchs. Is that you? I think
the P&F headquarters is in Twinsburg. I work in Parma (City of Cleveland is
on the other side of the street). Anyway welcome to the Cleveland area. I
hope you get to stay long enough to see some sights.

-- Mark

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2006\07\27@162720 by James Newtons Massmind

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> I think this is more real US...
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> I hope I can drive...
>


So do we.

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2006\07\27@163824 by James Newtons Massmind

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I hope you stay permanently. We need competent engineers, no matter where
from.

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> {Original Message removed}

2006\07\27@165214 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 7/27/06, Mark Scoville <.....mscovilleKILLspamspam@spam@unicontrolinc.com> wrote:
> Hi Xiaofan - Welcome to Cleveland - I hope you have a nice time during your
> visit. Someone on the list worked for Pepperel&Fuchs. Is that you? I think
> the P&F headquarters is in Twinsburg. I work in Parma (City of Cleveland is
> on the other side of the street). Anyway welcome to the Cleveland area. I
> hope you get to stay long enough to see some sights.
>

I worked for P+F before. Now I am working for Rockwell Automation
Singapore and the training is in Mayfield Heights. We have quite some
peopler undergoing training here since Rockwell want to grow the
business in Asia. Rockwell has a plant in Twinsburg
which is very near to P+F USA.

Thanks for all the kind words from the list members. I really
appreciate this.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\07\27@165444 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 7/26/06, David VanHorn <dvanhornspamKILLspammicrobrix.com> wrote:

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> Ni Hao!   I hope your butt is not terminally flat.  I remember those loooong
> flights to Taiwan that I used to make.
>

We fly with Singapore Airlines, one of the best airlines in the world. So
we are lucky. Still a direct flight of 18 hours is a bit tiring. There are not
many such long direct flight out there.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\07\27@165856 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 7/27/06, Rich <.....rgrazia1KILLspamspam.....rochester.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi Xiaofan Chen:
> Can you say exactly where near New York you were?  I agree that the Chinese
> food here is too Americanized.  But good marketing flavors toward the
> American pallet to increase sales.  I enjoy the food in China much more.
> There are a few places in America where the food is more authentic, if you
> know where to go.  I think the worst Chinese food I ever ate was in
> Amsterdam.

I stayed in Troy in the up-state New York. There were some shops with
good Chinese food there. LA has many good Chinese food restaurant,
even better than in Sinagpore.

> Glad you enjoyed your stay.  Sometimes America gets an unduly bad press.
>

That is true. The people in the US are in general quite nice. The visa
process can be easier though. One of our colleague needs to go
through the extra check so her training is delayed.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\07\27@170216 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 7/26/06, Gerhard Fiedler <EraseMElistsspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTconnectionbrazil.com> wrote:
> Xiaofan Chen wrote:
>
> > I hope I can drive...
>
> Just go by the rules and don't rush it... The US is one nice place to
> drive. (You'll hear them complain about the crazy traffic during rush hour
> in LA, but that's still quite nice compared to many other places :)
>

I made a mistake here. I should say "I wish I can drive". I have not
yet to learn to drive. It is not that important in Singapore since it
is a city country and it has top-notch public transportation.

Perhaps I will try to learn to drive here, much cheaper than Singapore.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\07\27@170743 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 04:52 PM 7/27/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>On 7/27/06, Mark Scoville <mscovillespamspam_OUTunicontrolinc.com> wrote:
> > Hi Xiaofan - Welcome to Cleveland - I hope you have a nice time during your
> > visit. Someone on the list worked for Pepperel&Fuchs. Is that you? I think
> > the P&F headquarters is in Twinsburg. I work in Parma (City of Cleveland is
> > on the other side of the street). Anyway welcome to the Cleveland area. I
> > hope you get to stay long enough to see some sights.
> >
>
>I worked for P+F before. Now I am working for Rockwell Automation
>Singapore and the training is in Mayfield Heights. We have quite some
>peopler undergoing training here since Rockwell want to grow the
>business in Asia. Rockwell has a plant in Twinsburg
>which is very near to P+F USA.

Twinsburg, OH is definitely middle America. You can check out the twins
festival in a couple of weeks (Aug 4,5,6)!

I strongly advise you to avoid the Cantonese food in Canton, OH, though.
;-)

>Best regards,

Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..."            "The Journey is the reward"
@spam@speffKILLspamspaminterlog.com             Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com




2006\07\27@194832 by Aaron

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:

>I worked for P+F before. Now I am working for Rockwell Automation
>Singapore
>  
>

Cool.  I use Rockwell products on a nearly daily basis.  Lots of PLCs,
HMIs, etc.

Near Dayton; if you ever get to the opposite corner of the state. :)

Aaron

2006\07\28@090232 by Mark Scoville

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Hi Xiaofan,

Oh you are at the Rockwell/Allen Bradley facility in Mayfield Heights (Alpha
Park I think). I've been to both the Twinsburg and Mayfield Heights
facilities many times back when it was Allen Bradley - before Rockwell
bought them. Mayfield Heights is a nice area.

You already saw Jacobs Field. If you are looking for other things to do in
the Cleveland area...

Downtown has among other things...
 Rock & Roll hall of fame http://www.rockhall.com/
 UUS COD (WWII era submarine you can tour) http://www.usscod.org/
 Great Lakes Science center http://www.greatscience.com/
 Steamship William Mather museum http://wgmather.nhlink.net/wgmloc.html

By Hopkins airport you can go to the NASA Glenn research facility visitor
center http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/about/visitgrc.html

If you want to try piloting a small airplane you could go to any of the
nearby small airports (Cuyahoga County CGF and Lost Nation LNN, Skypark 15G
and others) and ask for a "Demo" or "Intro" flight. For about $35 to $50 a
flight instructor will take you up in a small plane and let you operate the
controls so you can see what it feels like. Here is a link to Skypark if you
are interested...  http://www.flyskypark.com  I am a member at Skypark so I'm
familiar with what they offer - but it is probably an hours drive from
Mayfield Heights. Cuyahoga County and Lost Nation probably offer the same
sort of thing and they are closer to Mayfield Heights. Just having completed
a long flight from Singapore you may have had enough airplanes for a while
though.

There are many other things to do in the area - others in the general area
will probably have suggestions too.

-- Mark



2006\07\28@160528 by Sean Schouten

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On 7/28/06, Mark Scoville <RemoveMEmscovilleTakeThisOuTspamunicontrolinc.com> wrote:
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> If you want to try piloting a small airplane you could go to any of the
> nearby small airports (Cuyahoga County CGF and Lost Nation LNN, Skypark
> 15G
> and others) and ask for a "Demo" or "Intro" flight. For about $35 to $50 a
> flight instructor will take you up in a small plane and let you operate
> the
> controls so you can see what it feels like.



Do they teach you how to land the aircraft as well or does that cost extra?

2006\07\28@163516 by Dave King

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> On 7/28/06, Mark Scoville <spamBeGonemscovillespamBeGonespamunicontrolinc.com> wrote:
> >
> > If you want to try piloting a small airplane you could go to any of the
> > nearby small airports (Cuyahoga County CGF and Lost Nation LNN, Skypark
> > 15G
> > and others) and ask for a "Demo" or "Intro" flight. For about
> $35 to $50 a
> > flight instructor will take you up in a small plane and let you operate
> > the
> > controls so you can see what it feels like.
>
> Do they teach you how to land the aircraft as well or does that
> cost extra?

It's very unlikly you will be in control enough at the end of a 30 minute
fam flight to land the plane. That depends on your coordination and how well
you've grasped three dimensional flight. Most newbies try to "drive" it
which
might work in a car but is a technique a bit lacking in a plane. However
some
people do get it right off and some never do. Had one guy who kept trying an
ended up with about 75 hours and never could solo. (Other people do it in
4ish
hours, normal is about 12-15)

Dave

2006\07\28@163910 by Mark Scoville

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Hmmm... interesting way to make a few extra bucks. "Wanna know how to land?
That's an extra $100" :)

Actually, they'll teach you as much as you can absorb. The instructors I
know will tell you what they are doing at every step. Most students (myself
included) are a little overwhelmed on the first "lesson". However, depending
on the student, some land the plane first time out. I think it is more an
issue of differing levels of "help". The planes have dual controls - Student
& Instructor both have thier own interconnected set. So if you move the
controls the instructors set moves too & vice versa. I was on the controls
for that first landing but there were many control movements that were not
coming from me. So I was getting a LOT of "help" from the instructor.

-- Mark

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2006\07\29@000741 by Gus S Calabrese

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Wherever you go, there you are ..... ( mangled Buckaroo Banzai from  
the 8th dimension )
engineers can perform their feats of magic no matter where they are.  
I am not very nationalistic.
AGSC  aka POD

On 2006-Jul 27, at 14:38hrs PM, James Newtons Massmind wrote:

I hope you stay permanently. We need competent engineers, no matter  
where
from.

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James.



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'[OT] Into the real US'
2006\08\03@134656 by Nate Duehr
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Mark Scoville wrote:

> If you want to try piloting a small airplane you could go to any of the
> nearby small airports (Cuyahoga County CGF and Lost Nation LNN, Skypark 15G
> and others) and ask for a "Demo" or "Intro" flight. For about $35 to $50 a
> flight instructor will take you up in a small plane and let you operate the
> controls so you can see what it feels like. Here is a link to Skypark if you
> are interested...  http://www.flyskypark.com  I am a member at Skypark so I'm
> familiar with what they offer - but it is probably an hours drive from
> Mayfield Heights. Cuyahoga County and Lost Nation probably offer the same
> sort of thing and they are closer to Mayfield Heights. Just having completed
> a long flight from Singapore you may have had enough airplanes for a while
> though.

Just in case -- wasn't there some "stuff" added where flight schools had
to do a mountain of paperwork to train foreign nationals after 9/11?

Just trying to remember.  I don't want to see Xiaofan disappointed if he
visited the local aerodrome to give flying a try.

Flying is definitely the best way to spend ANY day... unless the weather
isn't being cooperative.

Nate

2006\08\03@142626 by Mark Scoville

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Nate wrote:
>
> Just in case -- wasn't there some "stuff" added where flight schools had
> to do a mountain of paperwork to train foreign nationals after 9/11?
>
> Just trying to remember.  I don't want to see Xiaofan disappointed if he
> visited the local aerodrome to give flying a try.
>
> Flying is definitely the best way to spend ANY day... unless the weather
> isn't being cooperative.
>
> Nate

Oh yes. Forgot about that extra paperwork "stuff". I imagine that the extra
"stuff" has more to do with students going for a pilot certificate than with
someone just taking an intro flight. As a US citizen I had to give proof of
ID - they photocopied my passport. To be honest I'm not sure what a foreign
national might need. I'm guessing a passport would suffice for an intro
flight.

-- Mark


> -

2006\08\03@162632 by Bob J.

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On 8/3/06, Mark Scoville <TakeThisOuTmscovilleEraseMEspamspam_OUTunicontrolinc.com> wrote:

> Oh yes. Forgot about that extra paperwork "stuff". I imagine that the
> extra
> "stuff" has more to do with students going for a pilot certificate than
> with
> someone just taking an intro flight. As a US citizen I had to give proof
> of
> ID - they photocopied my passport. To be honest I'm not sure what a
> foreign
> national might need. I'm guessing a passport would suffice for an intro
> flight.


Technically the TSA rule applies to an intro flight, if the student is
receiving instruction that can be logged as dual.  I imagine if the student
just goes for a ride then its ok as long as a logbook entry isn't made for
the student by a CFI.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf91/310342_web.pdf

Flying is the greatest freedom a person can enjoy in the USA.

Regards,
Bob
RV-6 N244BJ

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