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'[OT] I hear she does crop circles too'
2010\10\28@194337 by ivp

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www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584

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2010\10\29@031842 by Michael Watterson

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 On 29/10/2010 00:40, ivp wrote:
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584
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It's just shadow. Nothing in hand. Scratching ear

2010\10\29@041219 by alan.b.pearce

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> It's just shadow. Nothing in hand. Scratching ear.

My thoughts exactly.

-- Scanned by iCritical.

2010\10\29@042343 by ivp

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>> www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584
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> It's just shadow. Nothing in hand. Scratching ear.

I watched the Time Travel episode of The Universe a few days
ago. Theoretically it is not impossible, and who can say how
practical and to what degree it will be in a decades or centuries
from now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universe_(TV_series)

Episode 504 (on the web if you look for it)

James Newton suggested she was using an Acousticon Dictograph,
which was certainly available in 1928

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2010\10\29@062810 by Oli Glaser

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On 29/10/2010 00:40, ivp wrote:
> http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584

Cool..
They do say Chaplin was ahead of his time.. :-)

2010\10\29@070036 by Minto Witteveen

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2010\10\29@094456 by Ruben Jönsson

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> I watched the Time Travel episode of The Universe a few days
> ago. Theoretically it is not impossible, and who can say how
> practical and to what degree it will be in a decades or centuries
> from now
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Universe_(TV_series)
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> Episode 504 (on the web if you look for it)
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Timetravelling going back in time is never going to be possible - otherwise we would have known about it from future visitors by now.

On the other hand, it is not just time that flows but also our earth, solarsystem, galaxy and possibly even the universe that moves. And relative to what? So it might be quite hard to get back to that exact spot where we want to be when going back to an exact moment in time. Be off by a couple of seconds and you end up in deep space.

Another option is that going back in time also makes you (and everybody else) younger and puts you back in that age and place where you where at your destination time. Ofcourse all your memories from the future would also be gone so you wouldn't be able to tell anybody about it (perhaps not quite and that's where deja vu feelings comes from).

/Ruben

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2010\10\29@095752 by enkitec

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On 29/10/2010 11:44, Ruben Jönsson wrote:
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> Timetravelling going back in time is never going to be possible - otherwise we
> would have known about it from future visitors by now.

    How can we prove something "is not possible"?

    MJ

2010\10\29@101320 by Minto Witteveen

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?> On 29/10/2010 11:44, Ruben Jönsson wrote:
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>> Timetravelling going back in time is never going to be possible -
>> otherwise we
>> would have known about it from future visitors by now.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is a logical falacy.

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>     How can we prove something "is not possible"?
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>     MJ

In the real world you can't prove a negative.

2010\10\29@103735 by William \Chops\ Westfield

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On Oct 29, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Michael Watterson wrote:

>> www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584
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> It's just shadow. Nothing in hand. Scratching ear.

Someone pointed out a while ago that any sufficiently advanced  technology is indistinguishable from insanity.  People wandering  around apparently holding a conversation with someone who isn't there...

BillW

2010\10\29@140659 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 10:13 AM 29/10/2010, you wrote:
>?> On 29/10/2010 11:44, Ruben Jönsson wrote:
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> >> Timetravelling going back in time is never going to be possible -
> >> otherwise we
> >> would have known about it from future visitors by now.
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>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is a logical falacy.
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> >     How can we prove something "is not possible"?
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> >     MJ
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>In the real world you can't prove a negative.

If you can show that the proposition leads to a contradiction,
then you can prove something is impossible.

See, for example, the "halting problem". Or this one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle

>Best regards,

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2010\10\29@141135 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 10:37 AM 29/10/2010, you wrote:

>On Oct 29, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Michael Watterson wrote:
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> www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10683584
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> > It's just shadow. Nothing in hand. Scratching ear.
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>Someone pointed out a while ago that any sufficiently advanced
>technology is indistinguishable from insanity.

Indistinguishable from _magic_.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke%27s_three_laws



>Best regards,

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2010\10\29@141831 by Robert Young

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> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 12:40:59 +1300
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Ear trumpet.  
Just more proof that the Internet and the proliferation of bloggers is making us dumber...

Rob

                                         

2010\10\29@180958 by ivp

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> If you can show that the proposition leads to a contradiction,
> then you can prove something is impossible

That's true with our current knowledge. If new universal or
quantum fields or dimensions are proven then contradictory
or paradoxical logic may go out the window, and then literally
anything is possible

TVNZ played a (probably unintentional) tribute to Benoit
Mandelbrot last night called Hunting The Hidden Dimension

It would be fascinating if fractals can be applied to the bits of the
universe we don't know about or can't yet see or understand

Joe

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2010\10\29@181417 by ivp

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> Timetravelling going back in time is never going to be possible -
> otherwise we would have known about it from future visitors by
> now

One proposal is that you can travel back as far as the moment the
portal was opened. So, if somebody discovers how to make a
time machine tomorrow, that's as far back as you can come from
the future

Whether Mack Sennet had any temporal physicists on the payroll
may never be known


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2010\10\29@203359 by BOB

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Time travel.

No body can say that "IT IS NOT POSSIBLE". Nobody can tell the future of what science break thur are coming.

How many of you knew for certain 30 years ago that MICRO CHIP would be making the chips they are today.
If you did tell us all what is going to be the greatest electronic development in the next 60 months.  It cannot be just an improvement of something that exists now.

I used to read a lot of electronic an science  journals and books when I worked as a night janitor in an engineering collage.  When we were in the bar and talking about small computers cable TV  others would ask me what I was smoking.

There might be one already in the future but the users are very very well disciplined to avoid contact

Enough  talk I just about got the flaxenpop capacitor working.

OLD BO

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