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2007\04\10@220428 by Marcel Duchamp

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How to stop WindowsXP from re-arranging desktop icons?

... and yes, I already have unchecked AUTO-ARRANGE and ALIGN-TO-GRID as
well.  I have two systems; one continually does this and the other never
does.

Frankly, it's annoying to download something to the desktop and have to
search through the icons to figure out where it ended up because Windows
thinks it should continually re-arrange everything.

It's a little thing; but then, it's the little things in life that bug
us the most, no?

2007\04\11@035136 by Jim Franklin

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Marcel,

if you have to "search through the icons" on your desktop - just how many
icons do you have there?

I see many people with more icons on their desktop than background space...

"A tidy desktop is the sign of a disturbed mind"
(ok so it is badly paraphrased)

Jim


In Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:03:14 -0700, Marcel Duchamp wrote
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2007\04\11@041020 by Tamas Rudnai

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Right click with the mouse on the desktop, then a small pop-up menu appears,
choose "Arrange icons by", then click on "Auto Arrange" so that the small
tick disappears.

Tamas


On 4/11/07, Marcel Duchamp <spam_OUTmarcel.duchampTakeThisOuTspamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
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2007\04\11@043124 by Stef Mientki

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Marcel Duchamp wrote:
> How to stop WindowsXP from re-arranging desktop icons?
>
> ... and yes, I already have unchecked AUTO-ARRANGE and ALIGN-TO-GRID as
> well.  I have two systems; one continually does this and the other never
> does.
>
> Frankly, it's annoying to download something to the desktop and have to
> search through the icons to figure out where it ended up because Windows
> thinks it should continually re-arrange everything.
>
> It's a little thing; but then, it's the little things in life that bug
> us the most, no?
>
>  
It's bug already originated from the early win95,
and there's no real solution for it.
Some people encounters this bug sooner than others,
but eventually, everyone will meet this bug.
A solution that might work for some time,
is to increase the "mrubag" size with a factor of 10.

cheers,
Stef

Kamer van Koophandel - handelsregister 41055629  / Netherlands Chamber of Commerce - trade register 41055629


2007\04\11@054259 by Alan B. Pearce

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> ... and yes, I already have unchecked AUTO-ARRANGE and ALIGN-TO-GRID as
> well.  I have two systems; one continually does this and the other never
> does.

Well, I am glad to se I'm not the only one who thinks they are going mad. On
my laptop it seems to insist on putting the most recently used icon as the
last one, and shifting the others around  randomly.

Jim said
>if you have to "search through the icons" on your desktop - just how many
>icons do you have there?

On mine I have about 30, but I try and arrange them in groups, so all the
shortcuts to folders are in one place, MPLAB and associated programs are in
another group, Office programs in another group, but use an icon and the
groups all get randomly re-arranged so they are no longer in groups.

Stef said
>It's bug already originated from the early win95,
>and there's no real solution for it.
>Some people encounters this bug sooner than others,
>but eventually, everyone will meet this bug.
>A solution that might work for some time,
>is to increase the "mrubag" size with a factor of 10.

I take it this is somewhere in the registry ...

2007\04\11@055150 by Tony Smith

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> How to stop WindowsXP from re-arranging desktop icons?
>
> ... and yes, I already have unchecked AUTO-ARRANGE and
> ALIGN-TO-GRID as well.  I have two systems; one continually
> does this and the other never does.
>
> Frankly, it's annoying to download something to the desktop
> and have to search through the icons to figure out where it
> ended up because Windows thinks it should continually
> re-arrange everything.
>
> It's a little thing; but then, it's the little things in life
> that bug us the most, no?


You're not running old software that changes the screen resolution, are you?

When it changes your 40000x30000 screen to the old-time favorite VGA
800x600, Windows figures you'll get annoyed by most of your icons not being
visible, and tries to put as many as possible in that little space.

Of course, it doesn't bother to put them back afterwards...  leaving them
crammed up in the top left-hand corner.

There are programs that take a snapshot of your desktop (records the icon
positions), and restore their locations later on.

Tony

2007\04\11@055833 by Roger, in Bangkok

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I finally gave up and put all of my icon groups into their own separate
folders on the desktop ... haven't looked back since ...

Regards/Roger, in Bangkok

On 4/11/07, Tony Smith <.....ajsmithKILLspamspam@spam@rivernet.com.au> wrote:
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2007\04\11@061656 by Tamas Rudnai

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Hi,

I've just searched through my registry for "AutoArrange" using the RegEdit
and set values 1 to 0 everywhere (found couple of entries in Program Manager
keys, but I am not sure if that's the case here, you may can have an
experimental here).

Tamas


On 4/11/07, Roger, in Bangkok <merciesspamKILLspamcscoms.com> wrote:
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2007\04\11@094054 by M. Adam Davis

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If windows is improperly shut down, or explorer crashes then the icon
positions are not saved, and upon next reboot it places known icons in
their locations, then stacks the rest in an auto-arranged grid.

IIRC there was a command you could use that would cause explorer to
save the current state (including icon positions) so that if it later
crashed then it would place them correctly.  I've long since forgotten
that, though, and perhaps I'm just imagining it.  I recall that when I
had the icons perfect, I would shut the computer down and restart it
so explorer would save the positions, and later crashes wouldn't
affect it (it would go back to the last saved good position)

Your best bet is to either
1) live with it (annoying if you have more than 20 icons or so)
2) Set them all up and then restart the computer (may not work)
3) Use one of the _many_ freely available programs designed to resolve
this problem

On a side note, my current work display is recently completely filled
with icons. 408 icons on dual displays.  Time to do some spring
cleaning...

Good luck!

-Adam

On 4/10/07, Marcel Duchamp <EraseMEmarcel.duchampspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTsbcglobal.net> wrote:
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2007\04\11@095113 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On 4/11/07, M. Adam Davis <stienmanspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:

> If windows is improperly shut down, or explorer crashes then the icon
> positions are not saved, and upon next reboot it places known icons in
> their locations, then stacks the rest in an auto-arranged grid.

That is annoying.

This is the solution:  http://users.rcn.com/taylotr/icon_restore.html


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2007\04\11@100609 by Alan B. Pearce

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>If windows is improperly shut down, or explorer crashes then
>the icon positions are not saved, and upon next reboot it
>places known icons in their locations, then stacks the rest
>in an auto-arranged grid.

I suspect there may be something in explorer not right - and I do wonder if
it is related to the corporate anti-virus system (we use Sophos). When you
exit a program it seems to refresh the whole desktop and the most recently
used icon then becomes the last icon.

>IIRC there was a command you could use that would cause explorer
>to save the current state (including icon positions) so that if
>it later crashed then it would place them correctly.

Yeah, I haven't worked out how Explorer manages to locate where they should
be, seeing the "user interface" (when you "open" the user desktop file) is
just like any other folder. Obviously there is something else happening
behind the scenes.

>Your best bet is to either
>1) live with it (annoying if you have more than 20 icons or so)

What I am currently doing.

>2) Set them all up and then restart the computer (may not work)

Tried this, and they all moved around (except the basic windows ones).

>3) Use one of the _many_ freely available programs designed to
>resolve this problem

Not sure I am going to get that pernickety about it. It is just rather
frustrating that it used to be stable, and now moves around. The suggestion
someone else had about some setting may be worth trying to follow up though.

2007\04\11@160602 by Richard Prosser

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On 12/04/07, M. Adam Davis <@spam@stienmanKILLspamspamgmail.com> wrote:
> If windows is improperly shut down, or explorer crashes then the icon
> positions are not saved, and upon next reboot it places known icons in
> their locations, then stacks the rest in an auto-arranged grid.
>
> IIRC there was a command you could use that would cause explorer to
> save the current state (including icon positions) so that if it later
> crashed then it would place them correctly.

Shift-F6 (Win 3.0, 3.11  & 95) ????? - I could be wrong - It doesn't
work with win2k or XP.

RP

2007\04\11@182140 by Marcel Duchamp

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M. Adam Davis wrote:
> Your best bet is to either
> 1) live with it (annoying if you have more than 20 icons or so)
> 2) Set them all up and then restart the computer (may not work)
> 3) Use one of the _many_ freely available programs designed to resolve
> this problem
>

1) Been doing that.

2) Works for about 10 minutes or so...

3) Tried this idea this morning; will see how it goes over time.

One thing I noticed is that there is a couple of files called layout.dll
and layout.reg available on the net that are supposed to add right-click
context menu choice to help deal with this.  These files were originally
supplied by Microsoft.  This suggests that they know of the problem and
can have no better fix for it than this band-aid.

Thanks to all who replied; at least I'm not alone!

2007\04\11@183830 by Richard Prosser

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Have you looked at "Virtual Desktops" - eg as per
http://www.pcmech.com/show/opensource/1084/

That way you should be able to reduce the number of icons on each
desktop to a reasonable number - and have different desktops for
different application groups.

It's  something I'm going to play with but haven't actually tried yet.
(My work PC has over 100 icons at present and I get most upset if they move!)

Richard P

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2007\04\11@214711 by Vitaliy

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Richard Prosser wrote:
> Have you looked at "Virtual Desktops" - eg as per
> http://www.pcmech.com/show/opensource/1084/
>
> That way you should be able to reduce the number of icons on each
> desktop to a reasonable number - and have different desktops for
> different application groups.
>
> It's  something I'm going to play with but haven't actually tried yet.
> (My work PC has over 100 icons at present and I get most upset if they
> move!)

Have you looked at the Virtual Desktop Manager (a Windows PowerToy)?

Vitaliy

2007\04\11@223324 by Vitaliy

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Vitaliy wrote:
>> Have you looked at "Virtual Desktops" - eg as per
>> http://www.pcmech.com/show/opensource/1084/
>>
>> That way you should be able to reduce the number of icons on each
>> desktop to a reasonable number - and have different desktops for
>> different application groups.
>>
>> It's  something I'm going to play with but haven't actually tried yet.
>> (My work PC has over 100 icons at present and I get most upset if they
>> move!)
>
> Have you looked at the Virtual Desktop Manager (a Windows PowerToy)?

Never mind, it's not going to help in this situation.

Vitaliy

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