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'[OT] Google buys You Tube - one mans thoughts: GTB'
2006\10\18@192647 by Robert Rolf

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Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Bob Axtell wrote:
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>
>>I caught my wife's computer trying to phone home yesterday. It turned out
>>to be her GOOGLE TOOLBAR. What does the google toolbar need to be
>>phoning home for?

It's looking for updates.
Also trying to connect to g-mail profile, if you have one, but you can stop it
from trying by going to the configuration menu.

> I don't know why, but I would expect it to do this. It's a marketing tool,
> after all.

Of course.
http://www.google-watch.org/bigbro.html
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6.   Google's toolbar is spyware:
With the advanced features enabled, Google's free toolbar for Explorer phones home with every page you surf, and yes, it reads your cookie too. Their privacy policy confesses this, but that's only because Alexa lost a class-action lawsuit when their
toolbar did the same thing, and their privacy policy failed to explain this. Worse yet, Google's toolbar updates to new versions quietly, and without asking. This means that if you have the toolbar installed, Google essentially has complete access to your
hard disk every time you connect to Google (which is many times a day). Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd like an updated version. But not Google. Any software that updates automatically presents a massive security risk.
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I used to just block it using zonealarm. With the latest upgrade, I had to
remove it because it caused IE to fail with 'unable to save page', and there
was no rollback provision.
This is a well documented bug with GTB discussed on various user forums.

Robert

2006\10\19@001632 by Bob Axtell

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Thanks, Robert. Presently I have it blocked by her Kerio 4 firewall. She
DOES use
IE, alas, I can't get her to convert to Mozilla stuff.

--Bob

Robert Rolf wrote:
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2006\10\19@105214 by peter green

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> Most software vendors, and even Microsoft, ask if you'd
> like an updated version. But not Google. Any software that
> updates automatically presents a massive security risk.
pretty sure the default on XPSP2 is to update without prompting.

i think this is the default for firefox too.

fact is unless you have personally audited the code there is always a risk
that an application vendor will take over your system, few people would be
prepared to deal with the hassle of a security setup that would prevent this
(running as non-admin protects other users of the box but it doesn't protect
everything that is done/stored in your username)

2006\10\19@131607 by Gerhard Fiedler

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peter green wrote:

> fact is unless you have personally audited the code there is always a risk
> that an application vendor will take over your system,

Which IMO is one of the strongest arguments in favor of open source code.

Gerhard

2006\10\19@140228 by peter green

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> > fact is unless you have personally audited the code there is
> always a risk
> > that an application vendor will take over your system,
>
> Which IMO is one of the strongest arguments in favor of open source code.
right but the problem is that auditing code properly is very difficult,
changing an == to an = or vice versa can open up serious holes and unless
you have a before and after diff showing that change in isolation (which you
won't have if say a large lump of code has been rewritten since the last
public version) you are very unlikely to spot it.]


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