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'[OT] Gmail and spam with this list'
2007\07\28@005755 by Joshua Shriver

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Anyone else here use gmail? I'm noticing every day or two 1 or 2
messages usually with [EE] end up automatically in the spam folder.

I'm on several lists, and have several contacts and that has never
happened before.
Anyone else notice this? Know how to fix it like "allow all email from
spam_OUTpiclistTakeThisOuTspammit.edu"?

-Josh

2007\07\28@023333 by Richard Prosser

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Josh,
I use gmail pretty much exclusively now - apart from work. Maybe once
a month I get a  piclist message incorrectly marked as spam. Not sure
if it' mostly EE or PIC or whatever (I get them all).
I find that the Gmail spam filter is one of te better ones around so I
even forward non-whitelist emails from my ISP account to gmail and use
that to filter the spam. Maybe once a week I get an error one way or
the other on these ones.

RP

On 28/07/07, Joshua Shriver <.....jshriverKILLspamspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone else here use gmail? I'm noticing every day or two 1 or 2
> messages usually with [EE] end up automatically in the spam folder.
>
> I'm on several lists, and have several contacts and that has never
> happened before.
> Anyone else notice this? Know how to fix it like "allow all email from
> piclistspamKILLspammit.edu"?
>
> -Josh
> -

2007\07\28@051205 by Roger, in Bangkok

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Just mark them and click "not spam", you'll never see them in the
spam again.

On 7/28/07, Joshua Shriver <.....jshriverKILLspamspam.....gmail.com> wrote:
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2007\07\28@082044 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 7/28/07, Joshua Shriver <jshriverspamspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone else here use gmail? I'm noticing every day or two 1 or 2
> messages usually with [EE] end up automatically in the spam folder.

Same here.

> I'm on several lists, and have several contacts and that has never
> happened before.
> Anyone else notice this? Know how to fix it like "allow all email from
> @spam@piclistKILLspamspammit.edu"?

I normally do it manually. I am also on several list. PIClist is the
only one which has this problem. For ther other list, the problem
is the spam to the list. The worst are the two Linux USB list
(user and devel) since they do not want to moderate the lists.

Xiaofan

2007\07\28@095712 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Roger, in Bangkok wrote:

>> Anyone else here use gmail? I'm noticing every day or two 1 or 2
>> messages usually with [EE] end up automatically in the spam folder.

> Just mark them and click "not spam", you'll never see them in the
> spam again.

Doesn't work. I've done this several times now, but it still happens.

>> Anyone else notice this? Know how to fix it like "allow all email from
>> KILLspampiclistKILLspamspammit.edu"?

I don't know. The Gmail spam filter seems to be pretty good, but it's not
easily configurable. For example, I'd like to have an option that says "if
a label is applied to a message, automatically consider it as not spam".
But it doesn't seem to have anything like this.

The thing is that RemoveMEpiclistTakeThisOuTspammit.edu is not the From: header. One workaround
could be to add all piclist contributors to your address book. With time,
this will avoid piclist messages being marked as spam.

Gerhard

2007\07\28@195010 by Richard Prosser

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This may be of interest also (How to Whitelist on Gmail)
<www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-whitelist-in-gmail>
RP

On 29/07/07, Gerhard Fiedler <spamBeGonelistsspamBeGonespamconnectionbrazil.com> wrote:
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2007\07\29@110934 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Richard Prosser wrote:

>> I don't know. The Gmail spam filter seems to be pretty good, but it's not
>> easily configurable. For example, I'd like to have an option that says "if
>> a label is applied to a message, automatically consider it as not spam".
>> But it doesn't seem to have anything like this.

> This may be of interest also (How to Whitelist on Gmail)
> <http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-whitelist-in-gmail>

This page is half wrong.

The first half talks about how to create a filter. I have filters set up,
one for piclist messages. But Gmail nevertheless sometimes classifies a
message that went through the filter and got a label assigned as spam. So
this part doesn't work as white-listing. It is also not described as
working in the Gmail docs.

(FWIW, I had also assumed that if I had a filter set up, the filter caught
a message and assigned a label to it, that then Gmail would automatically
assume that this message is not spam. But this is obviously not the case.
There are pros and contras to this approach.)

>> The thing is that piclistEraseMEspam.....mit.edu is not the From: header. One workaround
>> could be to add all piclist contributors to your address book. With time,
>> this will avoid piclist messages being marked as spam.

The second part of that page (adding the message sender to your address
book) does seem to work (and it is also described as the AFAIK only method
of white-listing by Gmail). But it doesn't work with EraseMEpiclistspammit.edu,
because that doesn't appear as the message sender. You have to add the
individual piclist contributors.

Gerhard

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