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1999\02\18@145607 by Barry King

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I sense two undercurrents in this discussion (which is now
off-topic, but worth persuing):

1) Whining about not getting parts for free for home projects.  Well,
be honest- if its a home project, don't get parts under false
pretense of large future volumes.  Tell them what you are doing, and
if you can't get a free sample, Just buy 'em.  Some companies know
that home projects breed spinoffs and home businesses, and will treat
us accordingly by honoring sample requests.  Others don't.

2) Difficulties getting samples- at all- for (even if small future
quantity) development projects.  The companies that do not provide an
honest and hopefully quick and easy way to get samples of their
parts will not get their parts designed in.  At least not by me.

>Also, some companies work in a range where 100 systems in a year is
>bgi time. Mr Distributor dosen't like to handle these, so if you
>can't do it with DigiKey, you're often SOL.

You mean there are parts DigiKey DOESN'T carry???  :)
Seriously, DigiKey is at the front of a movement in distibution to
deal with any of us: small customers to large customers.  Sure, you
don't get the cheapest price for smaller quantities, but you CAN get
the parts.  We have started to joke that the DigiKey catalog is our
"Stock book".

The other distys seem scared, judging by their attempts to follow
suit.  I say, hooray.

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1999\02\18@154355 by dave vanhorn

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>>Also, some companies work in a range where 100 systems in a year is
>>bgi time. Mr Distributor dosen't like to handle these, so if you
>>can't do it with DigiKey, you're often SOL.
>
>You mean there are parts DigiKey DOESN'T carry???  :)
>Seriously, DigiKey is at the front of a movement in distibution to
>deal with any of us: small customers to large customers.  Sure, you
>don't get the cheapest price for smaller quantities, but you CAN get
>the parts.  We have started to joke that the DigiKey catalog is our
>"Stock book".
>
>The other distys seem scared, judging by their attempts to follow
>suit.  I say, hooray.


I do design out of the digikey catalog, but atmel chips and DTMF
transcievers aren't in the book.

1999\02\18@154947 by Peter Schultz

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After a few trouble and lost profit, my boss told me, if the part is not in the DigiKey book, for us does not exist.
Since then we do not have any trouble.
Peter Schultz
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DVP Inc.
3430 Ocean View Blvd. Unit A
Glendale, CA
(818) 541-9020
Fax: (818) 541-9423

1999\02\18@160407 by Wagner Lipnharski

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Barry King wrote:
> You mean there are parts DigiKey DOESN'T carry???  :)
> Seriously, DigiKey is at the front of a movement in distibution...

Sorry, still out of topic, but important subject to everyone.

I use Digikey a lot, but they don't have some today's actual
Microchips parts like 24c128 or 24c256 eeproms, and as far as
I can remember, they never carried Motorola, Intel, HP or Atmel
parts, (mostly 8051 mcu family), this should be a manufacturer
exclusive agreement. They just push away some purchases to JDR or
NetBuy, but it is their decision.  But for sure you are right in
the point, they are growing day by day, take a look at their
catalog from 3 yrs ago.  They increased the Maxim inventory so
much, but I still not able to buy the Max641 or Max857, both
power supply switching units, very much used around.

I don't know if Microchip requires an exclusive distribution
agreement for mcu's, but Philips and Intel parts would be a
very nice and sparkling addition to their inventory.

Wagner Lipnhasrki.

1999\02\18@160821 by Wagner Lipnharski

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Peter Schultz wrote:
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> After a few trouble and lost profit, my boss told me, if the part is not in th
e DigiKey book, for us does not exist.
> Since then we do not have any trouble.
> Peter Schultz
> <schupetspamKILLspamdvp.com>
> DVP Inc.
> 3430 Ocean View Blvd. Unit A
> Glendale, CA
> (818) 541-9020
> Fax: (818) 541-9423

How do you install 256k bytes in serial eeprom in just two wires?
There is not this option at their book, but it can be done using
8 x 24c256... Microchip parts (purchased at NetBuy).

ok,ok, your boss's decision. :)  boss is always right.

wagner.

1999\02\18@172449 by Reginald Neale

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>I do design out of the digikey catalog, but atmel chips and DTMF
>transcievers aren't in the book.

 Or TI parts. Bummer.

 I think D-K made their niche by putting out a real-world catalog.
 The other guys had big fat catalogs but it was mostly BS. They
 only stocked stuff there was no way they could lose on. D-K first
 catalog was small, but what was in there was REAL. They had it on
 the shelf and could have it on your loading dock tomorrow.

 Turns out to be important to a lot of people.

 Reg

1999\02\18@174403 by dave vanhorn

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At 12:49 PM 2/18/99 -0800, Peter Schultz wrote:
>After a few trouble and lost profit, my boss told me, if the part is not in
>the DigiKey book, for us does not exist.
>Since then we do not have any trouble.

Awfully limiting though.

1999\02\18@175402 by Mark Winters

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>  Or TI parts. Bummer.


Speaking of TI parts, where do you normally go for small-quantity purchases?
Their TSL235 light-to-frequency converter looks like a nice device for use
with a non-ADC PIC...

Mark

1999\02\18@175826 by dave vanhorn

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>  Or TI parts. Bummer.

I was wishing for some TL084's yesterday in fact. Nice, simple,
predictable, FET inputs.

>  I think D-K made their niche by putting out a real-world catalog.
>  The other guys had big fat catalogs but it was mostly BS. They
>  only stocked stuff there was no way they could lose on. D-K first
>  catalog was small, but what was in there was REAL. They had it on
>  the shelf and could have it on your loading dock tomorrow.

As opposed to say newark?? :)

Remember when they had discounts?!

1999\02\18@190921 by Bob Drzyzgula

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Digi-Key also has the best on-line ordering system I've
used anywhere, and that's counting high-volume consumer
places.

But alas, as others have suggested, no Dallas, no TI,
no Berg, no many other things.  I've found that Allied
is a good fill-in, and their online inventory tends to
be pretty accurate so surprises are minimal.  They can
also can sell you stuff that's not in their catalog but
is generally carried by other parts of Avnet, e.g. HH,
and will happlily track down anything from anyone on their
line card, although turnaround on such special orders is
kind of out of their control... I waited three months once
for Berg to make some parts -- longer even for T&B to
cough up an Ansley arbor press crimp tool; I think they
must have had to smelt some iron first or something.

Right now, Allied lists 9 flavors of the TI084, all but the
CD in stock; they have 410 of the ACNs for $0.60 each in
quantities of 25 or more. I called them last Friday for
50 AMP Differential UltraSCSI terminators; they were in my
office on Tuesday.  But then, my sales rep is a real gem;
she's in Baltimore, calls everyone "hon" (a gender-neutral
pronoun in Baltimore), and knows the business backward and
forward.

--Bob

On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 05:55:29PM -0500, dave vanhorn wrote:
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1999\02\18@202631 by Reginald Neale

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>>  Or TI parts. Bummer.
>
>
>Speaking of TI parts, where do you normally go for small-quantity purchases?
>Their TSL235 light-to-frequency converter looks like a nice device for use
>with a non-ADC PIC...
>
 Yeah. If you find out, let me know! Mine was in the Eval Kit, which I
 bought from either Pioneer or Future, can't remember which.

 Reg

1999\02\18@213329 by Tony Nixon

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>Speaking of TI parts, where do you normally go for small-quantity purchases?

Farnell or RS Components.

The prices are prohibitive sometimes though.

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1999\02\19@070044 by Harrison Cooper

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I've also found that Mouser electronics has been pretty good for me, used
them for the past 15+ years

1999\02\19@152319 by Heinz Czychun

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Hi Mark,

I just ordered 5 from Newark. $5.94 CND for TSL230 (lowest tolerance part).
I'm not sure it's a great price but they arrived the day after I ordered
them. That's the second low quantity order I've placed with them with no
problems.

I'm waiting for the heartrate monitor application notes, from TI, but have
already hooked one up to a piezo and heard the frequency wurble from the
pulse, at my finger tip.

Heinz

At 3:51 PM 2/18/99, Mark Winters wrote:
>>  Or TI parts. Bummer.
>
>
>Speaking of TI parts, where do you normally go for small-quantity purchases?
>Their TSL235 light-to-frequency converter looks like a nice device for use
>with a non-ADC PIC...
>
>Mark

1999\02\19@222808 by Mark A Moss

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>Seriously, DigiKey is at the front of a movement in distibution to
>deal with any of us: small customers to large customers.  Sure, you
>don't get the cheapest price for smaller quantities, but you CAN get
>the parts.  We have started to joke that the DigiKey catalog is our
>"Stock book".

Yes.  My job involves building and maintaining the numerous test fixtures
used in the production of biomedical devices.  A typical order will be
the parts we need to complete a repair/build, plus whatever it takes to
make the minimum order.  Both Digi-Key and Allied are very good about
handling small orders, and quick to fix the occasional mistake.  Newark
is also decent, however they are not as good about getting the order
right the first time.

Mark Moss
Amateur Radio Operator, Technician, and General Tinkerer
Kalamazoo,  MI   U.S.A.

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