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'[OT] GIF vs text art schematics (was Re: [PIC][EE]'
2005\07\08@194020 by Vitaliy

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part 1 1622 bytes content-type:text/plain; (decoded 7bit)

Out of curiosity, I decided to see what would be the savings (expressed in
bytes) for example below. My results:

Text art: 1,132 bytes
GIF (attached): 1,439 bytes

Total bytes saved: 307

Make your own conclusions. :)


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part 2 1476 bytes content-type:image/gif; (decode)


part 3 35 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(decoded 7bit)

2005\07\08@215807 by Jinx

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part 1 320 bytes content-type:text/plain; (decoded 7bit)

> Text art: 1,132 bytes
> GIF (attached): 1,439 bytes
>
> Total bytes saved: 307
>
> Make your own conclusions. :)

"properly drawn" .gif, 873 bytes, total saved : 566 (40%)

I conclude.....

http://home.clear.net/pages/joecolquitt/symbols.zip   (22kB)



part 2 910 bytes content-type:image/gif; (decode)


part 3 35 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
(decoded 7bit)

2005\07\08@223758 by William Chops Westfield

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On Jul 8, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Jinx wrote:
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> "properly drawn" .gif, 873 bytes, total saved : 566 (40%)
>
By the time it got here, encoded and surrounded by MIME headers,
it was about 1600 bytes :-)  On the other hand, the basic email
headers (not including the MIME bits for the attachment), were
more than 2600 bytes.  Sigh.  So I'll repeat that it's not the
size that's the useful part of ascii art...

(For instance:
   Yahoo groups don't save attachments.
   GIF format considered evil.
   my main mail reader doesn't do GIF, and barely does MIME.
   certain list rules don't permit attachments.
   certain people won't be permitted to receive pictures.
)

BillW

2005\07\08@232328 by Jinx

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>     certain people won't be permitted to receive pictures.

That's a pity

PS I missed the nz in the link, sorry

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/symbols.zip

2005\07\09@000206 by William Chops Westfield

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On Jul 8, 2005, at 8:23 PM, Jinx wrote:

>>   certain people won't be permitted to receive pictures.
>
> That's a pity
>
Well, yeah.  I can imagine someone of an age and ability to receive
PICList, but whose parents were still worried about them being exposed
to "pornography."  Even more likely on some of the less advanced
technical
mailing lists (remote control stuff, BEAM robotics, rocketry...)

For that matter, I can unfortunately also imagine a company who has
decided that the easiest way to avoid sexual harassment lawsuits is
to simply not permit any pictures to be distributed via email...

(cisco had something of an edict against "peer to peer software" in
their
computing policy a couple years back, which most people found rather
amusing.
Looks like it is gone now, though...)

BillW

2005\07\09@115006 by Bob Blick

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On 8 Jul 2005 at 19:37, Chops wrote:
>     Yahoo groups don't save attachments.
>     GIF format considered evil.

I think you've got it backwards:
-Yahoo is considered evil.
-"Burn All GIFs" was last century.

>     my main mail reader doesn't do GIF, and barely does MIME.

I'll expand the "last century" comment to include your mail reader :)

Don't get me wrong, I see your point. But I find it easier to create a
graphic schematic than an ascii one. And it is a lot more pleasureable
(and frequently easier to interpret) a graphic schematic than an ascii
schematic.

Best regards,

Bob

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