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2004\09\17@234002 by Jinx

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Just out of interest, looking for a culture that maybe has 54 or more
weeks per year and who also make chips for TEK ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

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2004\09\18@102514 by Marcel Duchamp

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At 08:39 PM 9/17/2004, you wrote:
>Just out of interest, looking for a culture that maybe has 54 or more
>weeks per year and who also make chips for TEK ;-)
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

Maybe the poster was referencing metric weeks?

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2004\09\18@103846 by redtock8

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I have seen many date codes over the years that are
YEAR - DAY of YEAR

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2004\09\18@125348 by James Newtons Massmind

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Put up or shut up or get off the list.

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2004\09\18@141044 by James Newtons Massmind

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Thanks.

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2004\09\18@145251 by Dan Smith

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>From the posts I've read so far, James seems to be taking the heat for
the decision.  The situation was discussed by the admins as a group
and the decision was not taken lightly.  Please do not single out
James - the reason for having multiple admins is to spread the load a
little.

As admins of the list, we want to make sure that it is a place that
people feel happy to post to and have discussions on.  I'm sure that
everyone has seen the flame wars that many usenet groups and other
lists have descended into - this is one thing that we really want to
avoid.

In an ideal world, us list admins would never have to intervene. As it
is, it is rare for us to have to do so.  Unfortunately, it is
impossible to please all of the people all of the time.

Dan
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2004\09\18@151355 by Dave VanHorn

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>In an ideal world, us list admins would never have to intervene. As it
>is, it is rare for us to have to do so.  Unfortunately, it is
>impossible to please all of the people all of the time.

You guys do a great job, and this list is a real asset.

We all have our flaws, some more glaringly than others. :)


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2004\09\18@171724 by Win Wiencke

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> I have seen many date codes over the years that are
> YEAR - DAY of YEAR

But aren't they usually two digits for the year and three for the day?

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2004\09\18@172650 by redtock8

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I have seen both 2 and 3 digits but it's
been a long time. I don't think many companies
use this format any longer.
Al

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2004\09\19@001125 by Herbert Graf

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On Sat, 2004-09-18 at 14:52, Dan Smith wrote:
> >From the posts I've read so far, James seems to be taking the heat for
> the decision.  The situation was discussed by the admins as a group
> and the decision was not taken lightly.  Please do not single out
> James - the reason for having multiple admins is to spread the load a
> little.
>
> As admins of the list, we want to make sure that it is a place that
> people feel happy to post to and have discussions on.  I'm sure that
> everyone has seen the flame wars that many usenet groups and other
> lists have descended into - this is one thing that we really want to
> avoid.
>
> In an ideal world, us list admins would never have to intervene. As it
> is, it is rare for us to have to do so.  Unfortunately, it is
> impossible to please all of the people all of the time.

Dammit Dan, you beat me too it!

As Dan has said, James was not the only one who had something to do with
this, all of us were involved with the decision.

Let me add that these resulting threads are proof enough of why certain
people have to go. It isn't so much the actual strict content of their
messages, it's the reaction the messages gather.

Look how many message have been wasted because of ONE SINGLE STATEMENT,
which most certainly have been said in thousands of "better" ways, ways
which would not have resulted in all this extra crap. Flame fests are
usually started like many fires: a single strike of a match. Flame fests
are NOT what this list is about. I know I don't have time to sift
through all the junk of a flame war even if I WEREN'T an admin.
Therefore sometimes getting rid of the source of ignition is the only
option.

I generally stay out of the flame fests that result from this, but this
time I felt too much was being shoved onto James.

Now, lets finally get back to more important stuff. TTYL

Herbert Graf
Piclist Admin #42 (42 since we weren't sure what number I should be, so
I choose 42...)


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2004\09\19@115423 by Herbert Graf

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On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 03:16, Lee Jones wrote:
> > Mr. Lathrop is no longer with the PICList... Again... For good...
>
> Olin's latest "transression" was to make a humorous comment when
> someone else made a careless error.
>
> I think James over-reacted and should not have done this.
>
> Anyone self-important enough to title themselves "Engineering
> Info", should make sure their posts are correct.  And if not, then
> take any corrections with good grace.  If you're going to speak in
> front of a large public audience, you have to either be (1) right
> or (2) thick skinned.  This person _way_ over-reacted to Olin's
> flippant correction.

OK, I said earlier I don't like getting into these flame wars, but this
message right here needs some correcting.

First off, let me be clear on something, the decision to oust Olin was
NOT based on "Engineering Info's" outburst, but only on Olin's message.
"Engineering Info's" response did him in, NOT Olin.

Second, PLEASE USE THE CORRECT TAG, WE HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ON THIS AND
YOU STILL LEFT IT WITH EE. Consider this your only and final warning.

Herbert Graf
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2004\09\20@095605 by Sean Alcorn

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On 18 Sep 2004, at 1:39 PM, Jinx wrote:

> Just out of interest, looking for a culture that maybe has 54 or more
> weeks per year and who also make chips for TEK ;-)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

At the risk of sounding stupid;

I was always of the understanding that "Week 1" was the first week of
the year that had 3 or more business days.

So if the first week of the year only had a Thursday and a Friday, then
it was considered as "Week 53" of the previous year. Production Week 1
was to be the following week.

And when I read the comment, I wondered if there were other calendars
that can contain more than 52 weeks. I think the Chinese calendar can
have 13 months (a leap month) and this is used by many US Farmers!

Sean

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