Post by thread:[OT] English vs. Russian

Howard Winter wrote: > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:25:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > >> " º Ç ï Å" :) > >> PS I hope your email reader and your system understand Unicode; utf-8, >> to be more specific :) > > Nope! In case it mangles the stuff above even further, most of the > characters are spaces, with some "high ASCII" characters interspersed, > such as C-cedilla, i-umlaut, a top-right double-line corner. This is the result of a stretch of utf-8 characters beyond the 1-byte set of utf-8 being interpreted as iso-8859-1 1-byte characters. Apparently you are using a system (OS/2?) or email program (PMMail?) that doesn't do unicode... The original header says >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yours says > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In the light of the discussion here about other nations joining the party, you might want to see whether an update of some sorts can give you unicode capability. 1-byte iso is probably going the same way 7-bit ASCII went some time ago :) Gerhard

On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:29:14 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > Howard Winter wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:25:13 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > > > >> " º Ç ï Å" :) > > > >> PS I hope your email reader and your system understand Unicode; utf-8, > >> to be more specific :) > > > > Nope! In case it mangles the stuff above even further, most of the > > characters are spaces, with some "high ASCII" characters interspersed, > > such as C-cedilla, i-umlaut, a top-right double-line corner. > > This is the result of a stretch of utf-8 characters beyond the 1-byte set > of utf-8 being interpreted as iso-8859-1 1-byte characters. Apparently you > are using a system (OS/2?) or email program (PMMail?) that doesn't do > unicode... OK, I didn't realise I was giving so much away! (Must have a look at my headers...) I probably just took the defaults on installing (about 5 years ago in this case, I think)- they almost certainly can handle it, but in all the years I've been online (at least 15) I've never needed non-ASCII characters before, so it's never come up. {Quote hidden}> The original header says > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yours says > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In the light of the discussion here about other nations joining the party, > you might want to see whether an update of some sorts can give you unicode > capability. 1-byte iso is probably going the same way 7-bit ASCII went some > time ago :) Thanks for the advice, it's probably just a case of finding the right place to change the setting, but since I am unable to read the Cyrillic alphabet or understand Russian (or other languages that use it) even when they are displayed properly, there's really little point! If I ever decide to learn these, then this will change... Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

> Thanks for the advice, it's probably just a case of finding the > right place to change the setting, but since I > am unable to read the Cyrillic alphabet or understand Russian (or > other languages that use it) even when they > are displayed properly, there's really little point! If I ever > decide to learn these, then this will > change... It's more than just foreign languages. There are numerous characters which are unsupportable using 8 bits. Whether they well be properly presented using 16 bits is moot but at least it's then possible. RM