Post by thread:[OT] Don't you BUY no ugly truck

In message <057301c4dcea$60b4dbe0$d201a8c0@y2k> Russell McMahon <spam_OUTapptechTakeThisOuTparadise.net.nz> wrote: > "Functional" design carried to its ludicrous conclusion. > It's interesting that the smaller diesel makes more power and torque, and at > lower revs (torque at MUCH lower revs). 1) It's damn ugly 2) It's far too big (IMO). My money's on people buying these things just to do the daily school run. Yuck. (yes, there are a lot of people round here that own 4x4s (or what I suppose Americans would call SUVs), nearly all of them are used by parents to take their kids to school, even though the local school is within walking distance). I've no objections to people owning 4x4s, as long as no other vehicle is suitable - I realise agricultural sites would have a legitimate use for a 4x4, but someone who just wants to take the kids to school... Ngh... 3) I guess that thing will probably do, what, 10mpg tops? Ugh. What a waste... I expect to be heavily flamed so... asbestos suit ON... Later. -- Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB, .....philpemKILLspam@spam@philpem.me.uk | ViewFinder, 10BaseT Ethernet, 2-slice, http://www.philpem.me.uk/ | 48xCD, ARCINv6c IDE, SCSI ... A committee has 6 or more legs and no brain. ____________________________________________

>-----Original Message----- >From: piclist-bouncesKILLspamMIT.EDU [.....piclist-bouncesKILLspam.....MIT.EDU] >On Behalf Of Russell McMahon >Sent: 08 December 2004 05:40 >To: PIC List >Subject: [OT] Don't you BUY no ugly truck - 2005 Studebaker XUV > > >It's hard to know whether it will make Hummer owners cower or laugh. > > http://www.avantimotors.com/studespecific.htm > >"Functional" design carried to its ludicrous conclusion. >It's interesting that the smaller diesel makes more power and >torque, and at >lower revs (torque at MUCH lower revs). Well, it's only 11% smaller displacment and it's turbo charged. Stick a turbo on the 6.8litre petrol engine and it also would be producing some impressive torque figures! It is *stupendously* ugly though. Having said that, the convertables aren't really any better. Regards Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= ____________________________________________

{Quote hidden}>-----Original Message----- >From: EraseMEpiclist-bouncesspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmit.edu [piclist-bouncesspam_OUTmit.edu] >On Behalf Of Philip Pemberton >Sent: 08 December 2004 10:01 >To: @spam@piclistKILLspammit.edu >Subject: Re: [OT] Don't you BUY no ugly truck - 2005 Studebaker XUV > > >In message <057301c4dcea$60b4dbe0$d201a8c0@y2k> > Russell McMahon <KILLspamapptechKILLspamparadise.net.nz> wrote: > >> "Functional" design carried to its ludicrous conclusion. >> It's interesting that the smaller diesel makes more power >and torque, >> and at lower revs (torque at MUCH lower revs). > >1) It's damn ugly >2) It's far too big (IMO). My money's on people buying these >things just to > do the daily school run. Yuck. (yes, there are a lot of >people round here > that own 4x4s (or what I suppose Americans would call >SUVs), nearly all of > them are used by parents to take their kids to school, even >though the > local school is within walking distance). > I've no objections to people owning 4x4s, as long as no >other vehicle is > suitable - I realise agricultural sites would have a >legitimate use for > a 4x4, but someone who just wants to take the kids to >school... Ngh... >3) I guess that thing will probably do, what, 10mpg tops? Ugh. What a > waste... > >I expect to be heavily flamed so... asbestos suit ON... No flames from this direction, I totaly agree. Mike ======================================================================= This e-mail is intended for the person it is addressed to only. The information contained in it may be confidential and/or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you must not make any use of this information, or copy or show it to any person. Please contact us immediately to tell us that you have received this e-mail, and return the original to us. Any use, forwarding, printing or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. No part of this message can be considered a request for goods or services. ======================================================================= ____________________________________________

> I expect to be heavily flamed so... asbestos suit ON... > Yes, Phil, I would argue that I REALLY NEED such a truck to get to work in the morning. Why, just the other day, I was consumed by road rage, and rammed my truck into a hapless passerby who happened to pull out in front of me and cut me off. So much for HIS car! I had nary a scratch. It is my god given right to have a vehicle that can plow anything off the road in front of it, be it rain, sleet, snow, or schoolbus. And if it only gets 3 gallons to the mile, so what? That just shows how rich I am, proving I am important, and proving Americans are the most important people anywhere. So what if everybody thinks we SUV drivers are a**holes? When I am driving over the top of some 50MPG tin lizzie, how much mileage do they get then? Huh? Take THAT you tinny little beetley bugs! <sarcasm off> -- Lawrence Lile, P.E. Who rode his bike to work today, with a PIC powered high intensity LED light built into the helmet, thinking about servo driven steering. > {Original Message removed}

There is a real anti-4x4 thing going on in the UK now, with the 'Campaign against urban 4x4s' stopping people at road junctions and issuing them with fake parking tickets asking them to re-consider there use of such vehicles. In the main, I agree that the innapropriate use of 4x4's should be discouraged, HOWEVER, in my household we have a sensible economic car, (for me) and an Isuzu 4x4 (for my wife). The Isuzu goes off road every day, to get to my wife's horses & goats, which are kept in a field. The Isuzu is consequently plastered with mud, and full of straw and so far I haven't been asked by any of the tree-huggers if 'I really need that four by four' (It's rather obvious that we do!) Finally, our 4x4 is a diesel and does 30mpg, which is a lot more than say, a BMW 740 / Jag XKR, Big Merc etc etc. It would make more sense if the aformentioned huggers would be campaign against all types of vehicle that guzzle hydrocarbons excessively, and not focus on whether the car has 2 or 4 driven wheels. Just my (humble) opinion! Peter Moreton {Original Message removed}

> Yes, Phil, I would argue that I REALLY NEED such a truck to get to > work in the morning. Why, just the other day, I was consumed by > road rage, and rammed my truck into a hapless passerby who > happened to pull out in front of me and cut me off. So much for HIS > car! I had nary a scratch. It is my god given right to have a vehicle > that can plow anything off the road in front of it, be it rain, sleet, snow, >or schoolbus. And if it only gets 3 gallons to the mile, so what? That > just shows how rich I am, proving I am important, and proving > Americans are the most important people anywhere. So what if > everybody thinks we SUV drivers are a**holes? When I am driving > over the top of some 50MPG tin lizzie, how much mileage do they > get then? Huh? Take THAT you tinny little beetley bugs! You're making a joke, Lawrence, but you aren't too far off from the truth. I saw a man in an SUV literally run a family in a sedan off the road the other day. Literally off the road, until the two right hand wheels were on the turf past the shoulder. Times like that, I'm glad I have the Highway Patrol phone number in my cell phone. ;-) I think these large SUVs (and big pickup trucks, too) tend to have extend that feeling of invincibility that teenagers have. And that sucks for those of us driving smaller cars. Mike H., who walks to work every day (to offset his tiny little Subaru Forester which makes him feel guilty [@28 mpg]). ____________________________________________

Don't worry, I'll drive a little extra to make up for your lack of petroleum usage. :) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hord who walks to work every day (to offset his tiny little Subaru Forester which makes him feel guilty [@28 mpg]). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 ____________________________________________

Got a real case of Road Rage right up close and personal yesterday. A guy was not pleased by some nuance of my vehicular driving skill, and followed me for several blocks flashing his lights. I stopped at a grocery store, and he got out and proceeded to insult my ancestry, parentage, questioned why my vehicle was not in a scrapyard, and so on, mostly incoherently. This display was all done in front of his kids who were sitting in the car at the time. I was wondering if he was going to clobber me. I wisely ignored him, as I was on a Fathead-Free Diet that day. I am sure his kids now have an excellent example of mature, rational adult behaviour to clock their own actions against. Next time I feel like flipping off somebody on the road, I'll try to remember this grown-up schoolyard bully and how ridiculous and pointless he was. -- Lawrence Lile, P.E. > You're making a joke, Lawrence, but you aren't too far off from the truth. > > I saw a man in an SUV literally run a family in a sedan off the road the > other day. Literally off the road, until the two right hand wheels were > on > the turf past the shoulder. Times like that, I'm glad I have the Highway > Patrol phone number in my cell phone. ;-) > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.762 / Virus Database: 510 - Release Date: 9/13/2004 ____________________________________________

Heh, what'd you do to insight this? :) -----Original Message----- >From Lawrence Lile Got a real case of Road Rage right up close and personal yesterday. A guy was not pleased by some nuance of my vehicular driving skill, and followed me for several blocks flashing his lights. I stopped at a grocery store, and he got out and proceeded to insult my ancestry, parentage, questioned why my vehicle was not in a scrapyard, and so on, mostly incoherently. This display was all done in front of his kids who were sitting in the car at the time. I was wondering if he was going to clobber me. I wisely ignored him, as I was on a Fathead-Free Diet that day. I am sure his kids now have an excellent example of mature, rational adult behaviour to clock their own actions against. Next time I feel like flipping off somebody on the road, I'll try to remember this grown-up schoolyard bully and how ridiculous and pointless he was. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.804 / Virus Database: 546 - Release Date: 11/30/2004 ____________________________________________

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> Hey, that's what you get for sporting a "My AVR can kick your > PIC's butt" bumper sticker. :o) I recall a Dutch cartoon about two guys in very sporty cars in a traffic jam. "can your car go XXXX too?" with big empathis on *can*. so: "My AVR could kick your PIC's butt, too bad it's not available any more" Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: http://www.voti.nl/hvu ____________________________________________

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 09:19:42 -0600, Bradley Ferguson <TakeThisOuTbradleyeeEraseMEspam_OUTgmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:11:03 -0600, Lawrence Lile <RemoveMEllileTakeThisOuTprojsolco.com> wrote: >>> Ok, we want to know what they say, >>> >> >> Sorry, Politics is taboo on the PIClist. If I told you, I'd have to be kicked out. Some of >>you guys would WANT me kicked out. > > Perhaps you could get away with posting it ROT13'd? Too insecure. Try double ROT13 if you want real security. Bill p.s. Yes, it's a joke! ____________________________________________

At 08:31 AM 12/8/2004, Lawrence Lile wrote: > > I expect to be heavily flamed so... asbestos suit ON... > > > >Yes, Phil, I would argue that I REALLY NEED such a truck to get to work in >the morning. Why, just the other day, I was consumed by road rage, and >rammed my truck into a hapless passerby who happened to pull out in front >of me and cut me off. So much for HIS car! I had nary a scratch. It is >my god given right to have a vehicle that can plow anything off the road >in front of it, be it rain, sleet, snow, or schoolbus. And if it only >gets 3 gallons to the mile, so what? That just shows how rich I am, >proving I am important, and proving Americans are the most important >people anywhere. So what if everybody thinks we SUV drivers are a**holes? >When I am driving over the top of some 50MPG tin lizzie, how much mileage >do they get then? Huh? Take THAT you tinny little beetley bugs! > ><sarcasm off> Looks like tomorrow, I'll be using my large dangerous SUV with cell phone, ham radio, and strobes, to get through the 12-18" of snow, and once again deliver medications to shut-ins, and patients to and from dialysis sessions. It's not "tornado season" so I won't be sitting out in muggy weather for hours at a time, hoping to give a few more minutes warning to the community. < :) > That studebaker though... YECCCCHHHHH.. BTW: I've solved my workspace organization problem. Just closed on two houses. The one I'm living in, plus a small 2Br next door, which is to be my office. Nice, separately metered and therefore tax deductible utilities! ____________________________________________