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2010\12\14@110920 by V G

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Hey all,

What are your thoughts on Diptrace

2010\12\15@011143 by cdb

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:: What are your thoughts on Diptrace?

I tried it sometime ago, it was OK, but it didn't grab me and say use me.

I use AutotraxEDA and DEX from Kov software.
If you are looking for free CAD why not look at RS Components' Design Spark and Farnells' or Element14 depending where you live free designer?

Colin
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2010\12\15@013119 by V G

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On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 1:11 AM, cdb <.....colinKILLspamspam@spam@btech-online.co.uk> wrote:

> I tried it sometime ago, it was OK, but it didn't grab me and say use me.
>
> I use AutotraxEDA and DEX from Kov software.
>
> If you are looking for free CAD why not look at RS Components' Design Spark
> and Farnells' or Element14 depending where you live free designer?


I will. Thank you

2010\12\15@055130 by Oli Glaser

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On 14/12/2010 16:09, V G wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> What are your thoughts on Diptrace?

I have a licensed version and still use it very occasionally, pretty good for the price I'd say but not my first choice. It's not really that much better than some free offerings like say, Kicad.
That said, the version I have is the "Lite" version( I think it just limits number of pads to 500 or so) and a few revisions old, so there may have been some improvements in the last couple of years, but I don't think I would pay for another license.

2010\12\15@055444 by V G

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On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Oli Glaser <oli.glaserspamKILLspamtalktalk.net> wrote:

> I have a licensed version and still use it very occasionally, pretty
> good for the price I'd say but not my first choice. It's not really that
> much better than some free offerings like say, Kicad.
> That said, the version I have is the "Lite" version( I think it just
> limits number of pads to 500 or so) and a few revisions old, so there
> may have been some improvements in the last couple of years, but I don't
> think I would pay for another license.


What do you prefer

2010\12\15@073210 by Oli Glaser

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On 15/12/2010 10:54, V G wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Oli Glaser<.....oli.glaserKILLspamspam.....talktalk.net>  wrote:
>
>> I have a licensed version and still use it very occasionally, pretty
>> good for the price I'd say but not my first choice. It's not really that
>> much better than some free offerings like say, Kicad.
>> That said, the version I have is the "Lite" version( I think it just
>> limits number of pads to 500 or so) and a few revisions old, so there
>> may have been some improvements in the last couple of years, but I don't
>> think I would pay for another license.
>
> What do you prefer?

Difficult one - not really settled completely since I "moved" from Diptrace hence the reason I still use it a bit.
Probably between one of the decent free ones like Kicad, or the licensed version of Eagle (the free one cannot be used for commercial purposes, as is the case for a lot of other free versions of design software)
I will keep Diptrace too as it's not a bad program and pretty solid (even if I don't upgrade it)
Whatever I settle on needs to be stable, capable of reasonably complex multilayer design and bug free, which rules 95% of open source stuff out, but I will give Kicad a good try as I have heard good things about it, and although it's not the easiest to pick up, it looks quite powerful.
Sorry I can't be more specific as I'm still in the process of trying new stuff out, though I can say Diptrace has done fine for quite some time - no real complaints (just decided to see what else was out there)


2010\12\15@122331 by V G

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On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Oli Glaser <EraseMEoli.glaserspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTtalktalk.net> wrote:

> Difficult one - not really settled completely since I "moved" from
> Diptrace hence the reason I still use it a bit.
> Probably between one of the decent free ones like Kicad, or the licensed
> version of Eagle (the free one cannot be used for commercial purposes,
> as is the case for a lot of other free versions of design software)
> I will keep Diptrace too as it's not a bad program and pretty solid
> (even if I don't upgrade it)
> Whatever I settle on needs to be stable, capable of reasonably complex
> multilayer design and bug free, which rules 95% of open source stuff
> out, but I will give Kicad a good try as I have heard good things about
> it, and although it's not the easiest to pick up, it looks quite powerful..
> Sorry I can't be more specific as I'm still in the process of trying new
> stuff out, though I can say Diptrace has done fine for quite some time -
> no real complaints (just decided to see what else was out there)


What about OrCAD/Allegro/Altium/Proteus

2010\12\15@123820 by Joe P. Farr

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The current version of Diptrace isn't half bad considering its price.

Unlike some packages, Diptrace they limit the number of pads, not the
board size which was very handy for my purposes.
The supplied libraries aren't great but it's very simple to design your
own.
There is a support group on Yahoo and the odd question I've asked has
always been answered very quickly.

It's by no means perfect but I think it's good value for money.

There's a free version that you can download and experiment with.




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From: V G [x.solarwind.xspamspam_OUTgmail.com] Sent: 14 December 2010 16:20
To: Joe P. Farr
Subject: [OT] Diptrace

Hey all,

What are your thoughts on Diptrace

2010\12\15@135528 by Oli Glaser

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On 15/12/2010 17:23, V G wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Oli Glaser<@spam@oli.glaserKILLspamspamtalktalk.net>  wrote:
>
>> Difficult one - not really settled completely since I "moved" from
>> Diptrace hence the reason I still use it a bit.
>> Probably between one of the decent free ones like Kicad, or the licensed
>> version of Eagle (the free one cannot be used for commercial purposes,
>> as is the case for a lot of other free versions of design software)
>> I will keep Diptrace too as it's not a bad program and pretty solid
>> (even if I don't upgrade it)
>> Whatever I settle on needs to be stable, capable of reasonably complex
>> multilayer design and bug free, which rules 95% of open source stuff
>> out, but I will give Kicad a good try as I have heard good things about
>> it, and although it's not the easiest to pick up, it looks quite powerful.
>> Sorry I can't be more specific as I'm still in the process of trying new
>> stuff out, though I can say Diptrace has done fine for quite some time -
>> no real complaints (just decided to see what else was out there)
>
> What about OrCAD/Allegro/Altium/Proteus?

Not too keen on Proteus, and have not tried OrCAD or Allegro..
I actually meant to mention Altium above, I've tried it and like it very much (great if you are doing high speed designs with FPGAs as it has signal integrity and FPGA design built in, as well as many other cool features)
Despite the price, I would seriously consider it at some point in the future if I can justify the cost vs benefits over currently used programs (probably depend quite a bit on how much FPGA stuff I will be doing)
Although 3D board viewing etc is very nice, I'm not really sold on the flashy aspects in the end of the day (or "clever" features that don't actually do much), it all comes down to what will do the job (well) at the best price.
One major thing for me is good libraries (which Altium most definitely have from what I've seen) with a quick and easy way to make your own parts - seems to be one of the most time consuming bits of designing with any package as there is no "quick" way of naming all the pins, designing footprints etc, so the more already done for you the better. I think Eagle is pretty good for libraries from what I can see, although someone with more experience with it (like Olin) would know more. Good support and a popular file format are useful too, especially when importing designs into other packages or sending to people (another plus for Eagle)





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