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'[OT] Delayed e-mail reminders'
2007\11\21@164801 by Vitaliy

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I remember there was a thread on PicList about sending yourself an e-mail in
the future, but I could not find it. :-S

Backpackit.com offers a service like that, but it has two shortcomings:

1. The free version only allows 10 reminders at a time.
2. You can't put anything in the body of the message (I want to put specific
instructions, for example).

Any ideas?

2007\11\21@171309 by Alex Harford

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On Nov 21, 2007 1:46 PM, Vitaliy <spam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTspammaksimov.org> wrote:
> I remember there was a thread on PicList about sending yourself an e-mail in
> the future, but I could not find it. :-S
>
> Any ideas?

Would 30boxes.com or calendar.google.com work or do you want them to
appear to come from your own address?

alex

2007\11\21@175850 by Vitaliy

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Alex Harford wrote:
> Would 30boxes.com or calendar.google.com work or do you want them to
> appear to come from your own address?

Wow, Google Calendar looks nice, and it has the reminders. Is there anything
you don't like about it? Is there something that 30boxes.com does better?


2007\11\21@181450 by Alex Harford

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On Nov 21, 2007 2:57 PM, Vitaliy <.....spamKILLspamspam@spam@maksimov.org> wrote:
> Alex Harford wrote:
> > Would 30boxes.com or calendar.google.com work or do you want them to
> > appear to come from your own address?
>
> Wow, Google Calendar looks nice, and it has the reminders. Is there anything
> you don't like about it? Is there something that 30boxes.com does better?

I've found that 30boxes is much more reliable in terms of
adding/editing events.  Google Calendar will occasionally fail when
trying to add a new event.  Also, 30boxes makes things a lot more
intuitive by using right-clicks to bring up menus.

Alex

2007\11\21@190542 by Vitaliy

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Alex Harford wrote:
> I've found that 30boxes is much more reliable in terms of
> adding/editing events.  Google Calendar will occasionally fail when
> trying to add a new event.  Also, 30boxes makes things a lot more
> intuitive by using right-clicks to bring up menus.

Well, I tried using Google Calendar, and looked at 30boxes, but they're not
really what I'm looking for.

I need something that can generate reminders at a specific date and time,
and be able to repeat them (every day, every week, every month, every
year...). In Google Calendar, reminders are an afterthought, and everything
is an "event".

Backpack is *almost* what I'm looking for, except that I can't enter
anything in the body of the e-mail, and they put a limit on the number of
reminders in the free version.


2007\11\21@210547 by Nate Duehr

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On Nov 21, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Vitaliy wrote:

> I remember there was a thread on PicList about sending yourself an e-
> mail in
> the future, but I could not find it. :-S
>
> Backpackit.com offers a service like that, but it has two  
> shortcomings:
>
> 1. The free version only allows 10 reminders at a time.
> 2. You can't put anything in the body of the message (I want to put  
> specific
> instructions, for example).
>
> Any ideas?


The "at" command in Unix along with "mailx -s "hey dummy don't forget  
to do ... blah" works great.

:-)

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Nate Duehr
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2007\11\21@210636 by Nate Duehr

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On Nov 21, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Vitaliy wrote:

> Alex Harford wrote:
>> I've found that 30boxes is much more reliable in terms of
>> adding/editing events.  Google Calendar will occasionally fail when
>> trying to add a new event.  Also, 30boxes makes things a lot more
>> intuitive by using right-clicks to bring up menus.
>
> Well, I tried using Google Calendar, and looked at 30boxes, but  
> they're not
> really what I'm looking for.
>
> I need something that can generate reminders at a specific date and  
> time,
> and be able to repeat them (every day, every week, every month, every
> year...). In Google Calendar, reminders are an afterthought, and  
> everything
> is an "event".


Oh... I just read this.

Instead of "at" on Unix, you could just edit the crontab.

:-)

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Nate Duehr
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2007\11\23@073218 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Nate Duehr wrote:

>>> I've found that 30boxes is much more reliable in terms of
>>> adding/editing events.  Google Calendar will occasionally fail when
>>> trying to add a new event.  Also, 30boxes makes things a lot more
>>> intuitive by using right-clicks to bring up menus.
>>
>> Well, I tried using Google Calendar, and looked at 30boxes, but they're
>> not really what I'm looking for.
>>
>> I need something that can generate reminders at a specific date and
>> time, and be able to repeat them (every day, every week, every month,
>> every year...). In Google Calendar, reminders are an afterthought, and
>> everything is an "event".

But it seems it can generate a reminder for an event, no? Doesn't this work
as it seems it would?

> Oh... I just read this.
>
> Instead of "at" on Unix, you could just edit the crontab.

FWIW, and in case you don't have a Unix or Linux system running, you can
use the "at" of Windows. Or the system scheduler, or any of the many
schedulers out there.

Gerhard

2007\11\24@020244 by Denny Esterline

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>
> I remember there was a thread on PicList about sending yourself an e-mail
> in
> the future, but I could not find it. :-S
>
> Backpackit.com offers a service like that, but it has two shortcomings:
>
> 1. The free version only allows 10 reminders at a time.
> 2. You can't put anything in the body of the message (I want to put
> specific
> instructions, for example).
>
> Any ideas?


You're probably thinking of http://www.timecave.com
The free version has limitations too, IIRC you're limited to adding two per
day
and a advert on the end of your message.

-Denny

2007\11\24@234136 by Vitaliy

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Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> FWIW, and in case you don't have a Unix or Linux system running, you can
> use the "at" of Windows. Or the system scheduler, or any of the many
> schedulers out there.

Is there an easy way to send e-mails using the Windows scheduler?

We have a RedHat server running at work (our fileserver), but I'm still very
much a Linux newbie.

Vitaliy

2007\11\25@085509 by Tony Smith

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> > FWIW, and in case you don't have a Unix or Linux system
> running, you
> > can use the "at" of Windows. Or the system scheduler, or any of the
> > many schedulers out there.
>
> Is there an easy way to send e-mails using the Windows scheduler?


Not really.

Simple in concept, use the scheduler to run a .vbs script, the script does
whatever it need to do.

Downside is Windows doesn't have anything built-in you can use to send
email.  Probably a good thing, come to think of it.  You have to install a
3rd-party app, or wait until a trojan installs one for you.

Outlook Express is usually present, but can't be automated (I think).  CDO
might be installed, and might be your best option.  Outlook can be
automated, but current versions of Outlook take great exception to anything
using it to send e-mail.

Outlook is easy to automate, and works fine until you get to the .Send, then
it'll pop up warning messages.  (Checking the address book gives you a
warning too).  Various dodgy method exist to get around this, like using
SendKeys or installing other tools (eg Redemption) to avoid the security.

Note that Outlook is happy to send emails from a macro it owns.  In other
words, it can be told to trust it's own VBA code, but not anything external.
So the scheduler opens the .vbs script, which  opens Outlook, runs the
Outlook macro (or add-in), which then does whatever it does.  A bit
convoluted and possibly not worth the effort.  Depending on the environment
(eg typical business) you're in, that might be the only way.

Most email clients have a 'send at x:xx time', although Outlooks would
appear not to be all that reliable.  Not that I've used it much.  Maybe it
works properly if you're using Exchange as well.

Tony

2007\11\26@073101 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tony Smith wrote:

>>> FWIW, and in case you don't have a Unix or Linux system running, you
>>> can use the "at" of Windows. Or the system scheduler, or any of the
>>> many schedulers out there.
>>
>> Is there an easy way to send e-mails using the Windows scheduler?
>
> Not really.

Depends...

Try method 4 or method 5 from
<http://www.petri.co.il/send_mail_from_script.htm>. Or
<http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/>.

This <http://www.codeproject.com/Purgatory/ConfigServerSmtp.asp> may be of
help when configuring the SMTP server that comes with Win2k+.

> Simple in concept, use the scheduler to run a .vbs script, the script does
> whatever it need to do.

.vbs, .js, even .cmd -- or .py, or whatever is favorite scripting language.
For simple cases the command line in the scheduler may be enough; no script
at all needed.

Gerhard

2007\11\26@130906 by Tony Smith

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I still say it's 'not really'.

Those links are mainly 'install 3rd party' software, which means it'll run
fine on your PC, but not on another one.

The only thing you can almost rely on being there is Outlook Express, but no
automation there.  CDO may be on your machine, and is usually the first
thing I try.  Having less success with it these days though.

I'd forgotten about the SMTP server in IIS, but that's not something you
find installed often.  Good choice if it's your own box, but good luck
getting it installed in a business environment.  :)

Tony

2007\11\26@175954 by Jake Anderson

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Vitaliy wrote:
> Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>  
>> FWIW, and in case you don't have a Unix or Linux system running, you can
>> use the "at" of Windows. Or the system scheduler, or any of the many
>> schedulers out there.
>>    
>
> Is there an easy way to send e-mails using the Windows scheduler?
>
> We have a RedHat server running at work (our fileserver), but I'm still very
> much a Linux newbie.
>
> Vitaliy
>
>  
Use bmail and a batch file (and scheduler) is probably the easiest way.
I use bmail to send me the results of long running searches etc. bmail
is a command line smtp client, you just call it with a bunch of options
and it will send the mail for you.

2007\11\27@073318 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Tony Smith wrote:

>>> Not really.
>>
>> Depends...

> I still say it's 'not really'.
>
> Those links are mainly 'install 3rd party' software, which means it'll run
> fine on your PC, but not on another one.

I thought that the application was that Vitaliy wants to set up regular,
scheduled emails to himself (or team members), so supposedly this happens
on a system of his -- where installing something like a command line
emailer is not really a big deal.

> I'd forgotten about the SMTP server in IIS, but that's not something you
> find installed often.  Good choice if it's your own box, but good luck
> getting it installed in a business environment.  :)

Not so much of a problem if the business is yours :)

Gerhard

2007\11\29@222854 by Richard Prosser

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Has anyone tried http://www.callthefuture.org/ ? It may be relevant to this
now outdated thread.

But it doesn't appear to work on international calls to NZ.

RP


On 28/11/2007, Gerhard Fiedler <KILLspamlistsKILLspamspamconnectionbrazil.com> wrote:
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