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'[OT] Cold fusion tomorrow, in Italy!'
2011\01\16@033642 by Robert Csaba Molnar

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I have no intention to ridicule anyone's genuine effort to achieve a scientific breakthrough. IIRC G. Marconi, the inventor of the radio telegraph, was born in Bologna. I think Marconi's law is a familiar term for many of the readers on this forum. So nothing to ridicule about the baloney Bologna relationship either.
Most of us just find it hard to believe that cold fusion was achieved under the given circumstances, and some healthy humor never did any harm.

Robert

--- On Sun, 1/16/11, smplx <spam_OUTsmplxTakeThisOuTspamallotrope.net> wrote:

From: smplx <.....smplxKILLspamspam@spam@allotrope.net>
Subject: Re: [EE] Cold fusion tomorrow, in Italy!
To: "Microcontroller discussion list - Public." <piclistspamKILLspammit.edu>
Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 2:22 AM



On Sat, 15 Jan 2011, M. Adam Davis wrote:

> Ha!  The "presentation" has all the trappings of a scam.  I love one
> comment by one of the inventors, "Rossi maintains that at a
> theoretical level we can only speculate what happens in the machinery"
> then they indicate that some of the copper inside the reactor turns
> into nickel, etc.  This would actually be a good development, because
> relative to nickel, copper is cheap!  Maybe they can increase the
> "frequency" of the reaction and turn it into gold...

A long time ago someone found that a stone could be used to point to the north star even when it could not be seen. I'm sure many people didn't belive it because they couldn't get their stones to do the same.

I'm not saying this isn't a scam but wouldn't it be nice if all the energy that is being expended on ridicule were actually redirected to actually thinking about ways it could be made to work.

There are still lots of different types of magic stones remaining to be discovered. Just remember, the alchemist of today is the scientist of tomorrow.

Regards
Sergio Masc

2011\01\16@074851 by enkitec

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    Copied from another forum:

    "I think the likelihood of fraud is vanishingly small. There is no way you could fool the professors involved in this, and I am sure they are not all engaged in a conspiracy to fool the rest of us."
    I think all those involved in any way with this demo are keenly aware of the consequences... it would be career suicide and ridicule if they failed.  After what happened to F&P, I highly doubt any of them would take that kind of chance with their own careers.  In fact, if I were one of them, I would require proof before I would agree to even consider helping with the demo... so they probably have seen enough of its operation to satisfy their minds that this is real... time will tell!  ;-)
    MJ




On 16-Jan-11 06:36, Robert Csaba Molnar wrote:
> I have no intention to ridicule anyone's genuine effort to achieve a scientific breakthrough. IIRC G. Marconi, the inventor of the radio telegraph, was born in Bologna. I think Marconi's law is a familiar term for many of the readers on this forum. So nothing to ridicule about the baloney Bologna relationship either.
> Most of us just find it hard to believe that cold fusion was achieved under the given circumstances, and some healthy humor never did any harm.
>
> Robert

2011\01\16@200107 by RussellMc

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> ... .  After what happened to F&P,

I haven't checked really recently, but when I did a quick run around
the cold fusion sites and papers etc perhaps one to two years ago it
seemed that F&P were still hard at it and they and others were being
funded by big corporations to continue their research.

Which may or may not prove anything about the science but is liable to
tell you something about human nature at all levels :-).

FWIW - I think CF in all its usual conceptions is very likely non
existent BUT I'd very very very much love to find that this was not
true.


      R

2011\01\18@083839 by N. T.

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V G wrote:
>Robert Csaba Molnar wrote:
>
>> So I guess rubbing to sticks together is still the closest we are to cold
>> fusion?
>>
>
> Please explain.

Wish normal fusion be conducted, of course, but when not allowed,
then, probably, rubbing to stick together will be the closest
acceptable option

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