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2005\07\11@110049 by R. I. Nelson

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I am starting to get a rather large number of CD's and DVD's.  I am
converting all my manuals and other things of interest to PFD format and
putting them on CD's.  I am looking into putting all my VHS and some
BETA video tapes onto DVD's.  ( any suggestions on equipment to do that.)

What I am looking for now is a means of  storing and organizing the
finished disks.  the best thing I have been able to find so far is the
unit at the following link  But that is kind of expensive at  $0.87  per
disc for the expensive one  It does have the nice feature of the
software  control.

 http://www.cdstoragestore.com/

Any one aware of other alternatives.


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2005\07\11@114429 by Russell McMahon

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Be EXTREMELY wary of data retention issues.
Be EXTREMELY vigilant about backing up valued data and testing the
backups on an ongoing basis.
Expect data loss may occur and plan for it.
Store as recommended.


       RM


>I am starting to get a rather large number of CD's and DVD's.  I am
> converting all my manuals and other things of interest to PFD format
> and
> putting them on CD's.  I am looking into putting all my VHS and some
> BETA video tapes onto DVD's.  ( any suggestions on equipment to do
> that.)

2005\07\11@130917 by R. I. Nelson

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I was told that  the data on CD's & DVD's  was  pretty much  permenant
and indestructabe as long as the disc was not damaged physically (I.E.
CRACKS, SURFACE SCRATCHES.)

So what are the data retention issues to be concerned about


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2005\07\11@133834 by Herbert Graf

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On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 12:09 -0500, R. I. Nelson wrote:
> I was told that  the data on CD's & DVD's  was  pretty much  permenant
> and indestructabe as long as the disc was not damaged physically (I.E.
> CRACKS, SURFACE SCRATCHES.)

Unfortunately whoever told you that is wrong.

Pressed CDs and DVDs are quite good, although sometimes things do go
wrong (early audio CDs had a problem where the alu layer would oxidize).
Quotes on life time vary, but I'd say at least 25 years is reasonable.

Recordable CDs and DVDs are MUCH worse. I have a large batch of burned
CDRs that are about 5 years old, of various good brands, burned by
various burners, and I had a read failure rate of over 50%! Most of the
failures are of just a few sectors (so not that bad), but some are so
bad that nothing is salvageable.

I also have CDRs from about 10 years ago, NONE of those are error free,
most are completely useless.

Note that these CDRs were not all cheapos, in fact most were various
good brand names and weren't cheap.

I haven't yet had any DVDRs fail, but then I've only had a DVD burner
for maybe 3 years, we shall see, but I certainly don't expect them to
last much longer then CDRs.

Out of all of the data storage elements I've used over the years, hard
drives have been best. I have a 100MB hard drive that still works
perfectly, and it's probably more then 15 years old!

The moral of the story: keep rotating your data threw media.

TTYL


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2005\07\11@180251 by Andre Abelian

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Nelson,

I tried using my PC to capture video it was waist of time just buy
DVD recorder and convert your VHS to dvd.

Andre



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