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2006\12\13@063533 by tachyon 1

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Do me a favour and spell your name phonetically (both first and last) so
I know how to 'hear' it in my mind when I read it all the time on this
list.
I'm pretty good with foreign langs and accents, but I'm sure I'm mangling
yours.

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2006\12\18@090446 by Howard Winter

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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 06:35:28 -0500, spam_OUTtachyon_1TakeThisOuTspamemail.com wrote:

> Do me a favour and spell your name phonetically (both first and last) so
> I know how to 'hear' it in my mind when I read it all the time on this
> list.
> I'm pretty good with foreign langs and accents, but I'm sure I'm mangling
> yours.

As nobody seems to have answered, this is my attem:  I asked a colleague at work, who was South African, how
Wouter's surname should be pronounced (his first name is as it's spelled, with the "W" pronounced as "V" in English)
and he said: "oo-yen".  The "e" is quite short, not as if you were saying "Yen" on its own - more like "ynn".

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


2006\12\18@125126 by Tachyon

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That was what made me ask in the first place. I realized that I didn't
even know if they pronounce W and V the German way or the English way.
Or what other different pronunciation rules there might be in his native
tongue.

Howard Winter wrote:
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2006\12\18@172214 by Mike Singer

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Howard Winter wrote:
> > Do me a favour and spell your name phonetically
> > (both first and last) so I know how to 'hear' it in my
> > mind when I read it all the time on this list.
> > I'm pretty good with foreign langs and accents,
> > but I'm sure I'm mangling yours.
>
> As nobody seems to have answered, ...

This is because the guy:
- asked without "please"; it's impolite.
- asked about personal info without naming himself; it's heck of impolite.
- started a message with "Hey" to a respected person; it's ***** impolite.

Just explanation, nothing personal and not an attempt to admin the List.

Best Regards,
MS

2006\12\18@204920 by Tachyon

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Speaking of rude jerks....

Mike Singer wrote:
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2006\12\18@210239 by Jinx

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> Speaking of rude jerks....

Now now, it's The Season Of Goodwill. Santa will know

2006\12\19@015849 by Wouter van Ooijen

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> Howard Winter wrote:
> > > Do me a favour and spell your name phonetically
> > > (both first and last) so I know how to 'hear' it in my
> > > mind when I read it all the time on this list.
> > > I'm pretty good with foreign langs and accents,
> > > but I'm sure I'm mangling yours.
> >
> > As nobody seems to have answered, ...
>
> This is because the guy:
> - asked without "please"; it's impolite.
> - asked about personal info without naming himself; it's heck
> of impolite.
> - started a message with "Hey" to a respected person; it's
> ***** impolite.

No need to try to attribute anything to more complex reasons when human
error is sufficient. (This rule can be applied to most complot therories
as well.)

I missed the message, so I never responded. I probably missed it because
I was moving to a new house, and afterwards had to catch up with 500+
piclist messages. When I have all my gear up and some customers off my
back I'll make a sound snippet on my webpage pronouncing my name.

PS the post I am now replying to has an attribution error: the text
below "Howard Winter wrote" was *not* written by Howard.

Wouter van Ooijen

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docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: http://www.voti.nl/hvu



2006\12\19@044451 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Speaking of rude jerks....

Well, Mike Singer does have a point. Your request could hardly be called
polite. We don't know your name, but you are asking someone else how they
say their name.

Is your name really Tachyon? I guess this is an anglicised spelling of a
Chinese or SE Asian name, if it is a real name.

And how do you say your name? From the spelling, I have got used to thinking
"Tacky-on", although I suspect true pronunciation would be more like
"Tack-eon".

2006\12\19@130824 by Mike Singer

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Alan B. Pearce wrote:

> Is your name really Tachyon? I guess this is an
> anglicised spelling of a Chinese or SE Asian
> name, if it is a real name.


A hypothetical particle that travels at superluminal velocity.
A particle one can never see approaching.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

MS

2006\12\19@133135 by David VanHorn

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On 12/19/06, Alan B. Pearce <A.B.PearcespamKILLspamrl.ac.uk> wrote:
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> >Speaking of rude jerks....
>
> Well, Mike Singer does have a point. Your request could hardly be called
> polite. We don't know your name, but you are asking someone else how they
> say their name.


Hardly classified information..

While the request may not have been all that polite, the intent certainly
was.

2006\12\19@171248 by Mike Singer

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David VanHorn wrote:

> While the request may not have been all
> that polite, the intent certainly was.

L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés ou désirs.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions :-)

MS

2006\12\19@184044 by Mark Scoville

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> The road to hell is paved with good intentions :-)

And I was worried it would be a bumpy old dirt road - good to hear it is
paved... :-)

-- Mark


2006\12\19@230639 by Tachyon

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Cool, thanks.

Also thanks for not choosing to believe others have the psychic powers
to know what my meaning or intentions are.
If I meant to offend anyone, I'd just do it. Not play childish games
with the manner of addressing my questions.

The actual fact is that I didn't want to keep mangling your name every
time I read it. Clearly to anyone sane, this implies respect, not
disrespect. If I had no respect for you, I would not give a rip how it
was pronounced. Also, 'do me a favour' is  a colloquialism for 'please'.

As for respecting privacy, given your name is in your signature on every
post, I think it's safe to say the pronunciation is not a state secret.
My own preference is not to post my personal details on public Internet
lists to be mauled and ripped by every spam harvester's bot hordes. I
respect other's choice to hide or broadcast their personal information.

So to be clear to all who read this.

Mr. Wouter van Ooijen,

Sir, it has come to my attention that I am not in possession of the
language skills to properly pronounce your name as I read it in all of
your posts to this public forum. If it please you sir, share this
information with me so that I may, in future, properly pronounce your
name as I consider it disrespectful to continue to mispronounce the name
of someone of your obvious skills and standing in the community.

Thank you,
   <name withheld> aka Tachyon

:-D

Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
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2006\12\20@035841 by Alan B. Pearce

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>A hypothetical particle that travels at superluminal velocity.
>A particle one can never see approaching.

Ah, thanks for the enlightenment.

Hmm, Wikipedia says "the existence of tachyons has not been shown ..."

2006\12\20@041737 by Jinx

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> >A hypothetical particle that travels at superluminal velocity

Oh, like Muhammad Ali ?

"Ah'm so fast ah can turn the light off an' be in the bed before
the room gets dark"

"Your hands can't hit what your eyes can't see"

2006\12\22@213317 by Peter P.

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Mark Scoville <MScoville <at> unicontrolinc.com> writes:

> > The road to hell is paved with good intentions
>
> And I was worried it would be a bumpy old dirt road - good to hear it is
> paved...

Yes, just mind the little sign that mentions giving up any hope while going down
...

Peter



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