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2007\06\12@212230 by Russell McMahon

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WOT !!!!

Target: Anyone interested in helping me select some photos for a
competition.
You also get to see a few less than usual photos of Auckland.


I'm entering a "Day in the life of Auckland" competition with the
theme "My Auckland".
I can enter 3 photos.

Based on past years results, technical merit or any other discernible
factor doesn't seem to form a major part of the selection criteria and
they tend to be fairly causal with adherence to theme.

SO I'm hoping for 3 entries that will persuade the judges to put them
aside as possibles - better than that seems hard to aim at.
I have 21 candidates, some similar, to choose from.
I'd be interested in people's choice of the top 3 or 4 that they think
are most likely to attract the judges as "possibles".
Quality and resolution here is much reduced from originals.

Comments most welcome.
Answers off or on list as desired. This is [OT] but this is pretty
[WOT] so you may wish to spare the list the traffic - your choice.

I ask here as this is the largest single 'community' of people I know
and with a very wide range of perspectives and comments and choices
are liable to be informative. First prize is a camera and the odds of
winning are vv small.

   http://public.fotki.com/RussellMc/miscellaneous/apd2007/

Names not finalised. Using 4 numerical digits is best in most cases.

I like "Sport after Death" but would be unlikely to enter it.

"Stopping for nothing" is technically bad - it was a one handed spur
of the moment through a car window shot - but interesting.


   TIA

               Russell



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Here are the 30 top photos from 2006 (!).
Click thumbnails for a slightly larger view in separate window

       http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm


2005
http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/index.cfm?content_id=131337

2007\06\12@213008 by Goflo

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My choice "The Cats of Auckland"...     :)

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2007\06\12@222906 by Peter van Hoof

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artistically 11 beautifull lines and composition, action bottom left to top right and a nice mood

5 for its interresting color combination it jumps out at you

1 for its ability to make you think why is the guy in the photo transparent
(probably the photo that would get the most thinking time)

YMMV

Regards
Peter van Hoof

2007\06\13@042744 by Alan B. Pearce

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>   http://public.fotki.com/RussellMc/miscellaneous/apd2007/
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>Names not finalised. Using 4 numerical digits is best in most cases.

OK, I like: -

#9 (ICT6766s) guess you would title it 'All Aboard' but it does call out for
a title like 'Can't you stop in the right place yet?' with all that train
still not in the station (I assume the figure is the guard seeing she has a
name tag).

#11 (PICT8071S2 a) which cries out for a title like "(all the lonely people)
where have they all gone"

#2 (ICT6669) Motat by Night I find very effective.

I also like #14 & #15 & the 'ghost' in #1.

Where are #11 through #18 taken? Looking at 18 I thought it was the bus stop
on K-Road bridge over Spaghetti Junction, but #11 is obviously the same
bridge, and the buildings at the end kill it being K-Road.

2007\06\13@062205 by Vasile Surducan

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On 6/13/07, Russell McMahon <.....apptechKILLspamspam@spam@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
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>        http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm
>

Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll
probably find there is no  jury on this contest, just people looking
to pictures and vote, that's right ?

Vasile

2007\06\13@090045 by Russell McMahon

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> Where are #11 through #18 taken? Looking at 18 I thought it was the
> bus stop
> on K-Road bridge over Spaghetti Junction, but #11 is obviously the
> same
> bridge, and the buildings at the end kill it being K-Road.

Grafton Bridge.
The old concrete arch bridge between hospital and K Rd.



       Russell






2007\06\13@090046 by Russell McMahon

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>>        http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm

> Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll
> probably find there is no  jury on this contest, just people looking
> to pictures and vote, that's right ?

That's not.

2007 Judges are

       Kellie Blizzard, Chief Photographer, The Aucklander, along
with

       Ron Brownson, Senior Curator, Auckland Art Gallery and

       Jocelyn Carlin, photographer..

FWIW

       http://www.carlin.co.nz/
       http://www.carlin.co.nz/portfolio.php




           Russell


2007\06\13@092130 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Grafton Bridge.
>The old concrete arch bridge between hospital and K Rd.

Ah, yes, know it well (used to work just behind the hotel there, no not
sleep under the bridge ... ;)))

2007\06\13@093949 by Russell McMahon

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>>        http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm

> Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll
> probably find there is no  jury on this contest, just people looking
> to pictures and vote, that's right ?

You apparently haven't been subject to many photo competition judgings
:-). It is VERY hard to read a top judge's brain and determine what
they saw in some trivial photo that they preferred over your own
stunning masterpieces :-). If I could then I would win top place in
competitions :-).

       Russell



2007\06\13@143455 by Vasile Surducan

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On 6/13/07, Russell McMahon <apptechspamKILLspamparadise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>        http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm
>
> > Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll
> > probably find there is no  jury on this contest, just people looking
> > to pictures and vote, that's right ?
>
> You apparently haven't been subject to many photo competition judgings
> :-). It is VERY hard to read a top judge's brain and determine what
> they saw in some trivial photo that they preferred over your own
> stunning masterpieces :-). If I could then I would win top place in
> competitions :-).

No I wasn't. But I'm your friend and I will tell you the truth as I
see. You have one, at least two photos which can be submitted and both
are BW (my personal opinion). But with the jury you've point at, there
is no chance to won. The winner from 2005 should be a relative with
one of the jury ?
:)

2007\06\13@150009 by piclist

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Quoting Vasile Surducan <.....piclist9KILLspamspam.....gmail.com>:

> On 6/13/07, Russell McMahon <EraseMEapptechspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTparadise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>        www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm
>>
>> > Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll
>> > probably find there is no  jury on this contest, just people looking
>> > to pictures and vote, that's right ?
>>
>> You apparently haven't been subject to many photo competition judgings
>> :-). It is VERY hard to read a top judge's brain and determine what
>> they saw in some trivial photo that they preferred over your own
>> stunning masterpieces :-). If I could then I would win top place in
>> competitions :-).
>
> No I wasn't. But I'm your friend and I will tell you the truth as I
> see. You have one, at least two photos which can be submitted and both
> are BW (my personal opinion). But with the jury you've point at, there
> is no chance to won. The winner from 2005 should be a relative with
> one of the jury ?
> :)

This thread reminds me of why every time I look at the pictures from Animal
Tracks on MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6356101/) I always end
saying, "Oh
geez, not another monky picture...."  For some reason, whomever decides which
ones to put up there, seems to really likes pictures of monkeys.


-Mario

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2007\06\13@151514 by Joshua Shriver

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Of those images this is my favorite:

http://public.fotki.com/RussellMc/miscellaneous/apd2007/ict6669sbwsmotatbynight.html

-Josh

2007\06\14@025856 by Rikard Bosnjakovic

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On 6/13/07, Russell McMahon <apptechspamspam_OUTparadise.net.nz> wrote:

> I'm entering a "Day in the life of Auckland" competition with the
> theme "My Auckland".

Here's a contribution. Let's call it "in the basement of the evil
scientist Russell McMahon":

http://bos.hack.org/tmp/iszkra.jpg


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- Rikard - http://bos.hack.org/cv/

2007\06\14@041606 by Dario Greggio

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Rikard Bosnjakovic wrote:

> Here's a contribution. Let's call it "in the basement of the evil
> scientist Russell McMahon":
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> http://bos.hack.org/tmp/iszkra.jpg

wow!!

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Ciao, Dario il Grande (522-485 a.C.)

2007\06\14@074546 by Alan B. Pearce

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So is it worth 1000 words ???

www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dominionpost/4094041a6479.html

2007\06\14@110503 by Robert Rolf

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Dario Greggio wrote:
> Rikard Bosnjakovic wrote:
>
>
>>Here's a contribution. Let's call it "in the basement of the evil
>>scientist Russell McMahon":
>>
>>http://bos.hack.org/tmp/iszkra.jpg
>
>
> wow!!

Yes, 220VAC applied directly to 16V electrolytic capacitors makes for
a rather LOUD light show...

R


2007\06\17@041754 by Russell McMahon

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> So is it worth 1000 words ???

> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/dominionpost/4094041a6479.html

Well, if the words are all the same, such as dollar dollar dollar ...,
or exposure exposure exposure ..., then certainly yes.

If it was a matter of describing what was seen well enough that a
viewer would recognise it instantly and not be surprised by any of the
content, then maybe 100 words or two hundred would do.

If it was a matter of replicating it well enough that it looked like
someone had copied it from memory after having seen it the day before,
then a few hundred words would probably do.

But, if it's meant in the sense that the term is usually meant, yes,
it's worth 1000 words.

I'm becoming increasingly aware that "top" photos in a competition are
not pickable in advance by the submitters. It's not even possible to
predict with any certainty what will attract a newspapers interest.
Beauty is very very very much in the eye of the beholder when it comes
to photos.

Just because *I* like a photo (like this one) it doesn't mean anyone
else will.
Below is one of a series of photos that I took that I especially
liked.
I think that this one is in the same class compostionally* as the
winning example cited above - *BUT* if 10,000 judges didn't think so I
wouldn't be surprised. Just a bit sad :-).

        The scene is surreal. A large conveyor system with wwwww
bracing underneath ascends at an angle from near the middle lower
right towards the left, terminating about 2/3 of the way across the
picture and 35% up in  a rusty steel tower, perhaps 50 feet tall.
There is one intermediate bracing tower, also rusty. . The conveyor
then turns at 90 degrees away fro the viewer and runs horizontally
into the middle distance. A strange somewhat yellowish stone building
is visible through the conveyor bracing and below the conveyor at its
right hand (lower) end. There are 3 black vaguely seen lamp standards
with lamps on the ascending conveyor's frame and much closer to the
camera a single bright white lamp standard of similar design. A series
of low greyish clouds are drifting from (so the story goes) the right
and onto the ascending conveyor. The conveyor is picking up clouds,
carrying them up the conveyor, sorting their component parts in some
manner and depositing them into off colour white, grey and brown
beneath the conveyors horizontal section. Evidently it has been very
cloudy as there are now large conical piles of cloud components
beneath the conveyor. Some clouds have escaped capture and are
scudding on towards the left. The sky is an impossibly deep blue with
whisps of high altitude nimbus. A gravel road enters the picture from
the view point and curves across the picture to the right, with light
levels darkening as it goes so it leaves the picture in front of the
base of the conveyor with its details invisible due to dark shadow.
There is a silhouette of what may be low tress or bushes at far right
at the very base of the conveyor.

I could add more words to the 290 or so above - so far I've really
only got to the "describe so no detail will surprise when viewed"
level, and even then viewers WILL be surprised as the overall impact
is (I think) far greater than the above factual description may
suggest.

Viewing the picture gives you the 1000 words at a glance. Needless to
say, the conveyor is NOT dismantling and sorting clouds, but that's
the impression that it gives me, and I HOPE that is the impression
that it gives at least some other people. The title "Cloud Conveyor"
or perhaps "Cloud Catcher" is intended to enhance that impression.
Successfully or not.

3 versions at

   http://others.servebeer.com/misc

           The small version quality suffers from compression
artefacts.
           Medium is OKish.

   Big         1,674,815     CloudConveyor.jpg
   Medium    223,878        CloudConveyorh70.jpg
   Small          58,167          CloudConveyorq70.jpg


       Russell


* Optically it's rather noisy, but that's another issue.


2007\06\17@090417 by Vasile Surducan

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It's a nice picture. Breaking the rules of the subject placed
on the intersection of the force lines (1/3 and 2/3 from the picture size).
I don't want to point to my pictures, I have a pour photo camera.
But I will point to a spanish jallien: Javier Martinez.
Those clouds are very good too:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/japus/sets/781491/show/

And to Russell's grandpa (no cloud inside) :
(this is one my pictures taken with an $130 camera)
:)
http://www.elforum.ro/download.php?id=5924

If I'll be allive and at NY in august, I'll buy a true one...

greetings,
Vasile

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2007\06\17@213223 by Russell McMahon

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> Those clouds are very good too:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/japus/sets/781491/show/

Flickr won't let me see that site.
Apparently I have to have no account or an upgraded account to see
their material.
If one is, as I am, in the state of having a long standing free
account with them * then I have to leave or upgrade to their latest
"Yahoo ID associated" status.

As I decline to do either of these by compulsion (at least until my
need exceeds my pride level) I am barred from seeing any of their
photos.

I suppose it's one more model aimed at encouraging profit and customer
allegiance and ... but I fail to see how it works, and it certainly
doesn't work on me.

If I could be bothered I could locate and remove my Flickr cookie and
the status quo would be restored. I'm sure they don't want customers
with my attitude anyway.


       R

FOTKI & FLICKR
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* I tried Flickr when looking for a photo site but subsequently found
that Fotki, despite its limitations, far far better suited my overall
needs. I now have over 16 GB and 39,000 photos on Fotki. I'd recommend
that any one who wants to save and display large quantities of photos
on the web look at using Fotki. Cost is flat rate and small and access
speed is good. Upload rate is limited to 2 GB/day I believe - I
haven't found that a problem so far :-).

The above suggests an average size of about 400 kB.
I load photo sets of low to moderate potential interest at one of
their 3 default sizes from about 640 x 480 to 1024 x 768.
For photos where quality matters more I load either at full original
size (typically 2-4 MB) or resize them myself to suit before
uploading.






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