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'[OT]? Lighting Controllers - Same Question New Det'
1999\12\08@071424
by
Mark Boyce
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Hi all,
Many thanks for replies so far. Given the questions floating around
in response to the original one I thought it best to have another stab
at re-asking it with a bit more detail ;-)
Quick Summary;
Trying to create a 'black box' with 240v AC and Serial/I2C as inputs
and 0-12v (variable) DC 150w(ish) independantly controlled channels
as outputs for use with low voltage lighting.
Target Lighting;
12v DC low voltage dichroic halogen lamps as purchased from many a
highstreet retailer.
(http://www.arklighting.com/4000series.cfm is the sort
or thing I'm talking about. This isn't who I'm getting the kit
from they just have a handy web page. They'll wonder why they're
getting so many hits suddenly ;-)
Each unit could be up to 50w.
Arranged in a number of banks of 2 or 3 units.
Inital spec. calls for 4 banks, although I can see the need for more.
Voltages.
I'm in the UK so I'm starting with 240v AC.
I have no preference as to wether the circuit delivers 0-12v DC or
0-240v AC which I can then drop through a dimmable transformer.
Control.
This will be controlled by an as yet undefined Unix box. My plan
is to get a PIC to do all the hard work and then control the PIC
by I2C/Serial/etc from the unix box. I feel this should help the
scalability of the whole thing.
Lighting banks should be able to be switched on/off as well as
dimmed to specific levels.
All user interaction will come via the unix box so, AFAIK, should be
ignored here.
Misc.
Electrical noise is possible issue as this is being used along
side audio/visual presentation kit.
If this system can be designed to directly control 12v loads it will
provide a better example for others to follow without worrying
about differences between 110/240v ?
http://www.radioshack.com/ do a part # 990-0039 which is a
DC Controlled AC Dimmer Kit which looks the part but not
not available in UK and is 110v ;-( Does anyone have the
circuit for this ? The manual apparently has an example
for use with halogen lamps.
Questions.
(Questions that I have seem pass in EMail that I cannot answer
or comment on)
Which is more efficient, safer, etc; Controlling 240v AC then using
a transformer to step down to 12v DC or stepping down the voltage
and controlling 12v DC.
Should the lamps ever be switched totally off or should they have
a low 'pre-heat'(?) voltage applied when in use but 'off'
Halogen lamps are not ment to be dimmable, but it appears to work ;-)
Ascii Art Attempt ....
Black Box
+---------------+
Mains In [240v AC] -----> | Kit to Switch,|>----[Lamp bank 1]
| dim,etc and |
+-[Serial/I2C]----> | output as |>----[Lamp bank 2]
| | 12v DC |
| | |>----[Lamp bank 3]
Computer +---------------+
|
| Black Box
| +---------------+
+-----------------> | Kit to Switch,|>----[Lamp bank 1b]
| dim,etc and |
Mains In [240v AC]-----> | output as |>----[Lamp bank 2b]
| 12v DC |
| |>----[Lamp bank 3b]
+---------------+
Further comments / suggestions / etc :-)
Mark.
--
"What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch ?"
- W. C. Fields
1999\12\08@082121
by
Jinx
For starters, dropping the 240VAC down to 12VDC first and then
controlling the 12VDC for dimming would be my first instinct. I can
imagine any wave control you do on the 240VAC being messed up
by passing it through a step-down transformer or whatever.
Jinx
1999\12\08@082543
by
Jinx
Just a thought - is it necessary to run the halogens off 12VDC or will
they work OK with 12VAC ? Would save you some dough if they can.
Jinx
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