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2001\03\22@103225 by John Pearson

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Just recieved a Win95 laptop, with no way of getting anything in or out,
except a 3.5" floppy :(

Isn't there a way to connect to another Win95 computer with just a cable?

Thanks

John

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2001\03\22@104847 by Alan B. Pearce

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Find a copy of MSDOS 5 or 6 and install Interlink. You need to put the Intersvr
file on one machine and the Interlnk file on the other. Then all you need is a
null modem serial cable.

The other option is Laplink. This works in a similar way. Either way you can get
115kBps transmission. If you get a version of laplink that was designed to work
on Win95 then you will have long filename support. I do not think that
Interserver has LFN support.

The advantage of Interlink over Laplink is that you can use the server machine
as though it is a disk drive for any application. Laplink used to only do file
transfers, though I believe later versions may be more versatile.

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2001\03\22@105658 by Roman Black

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Alan B. Pearce wrote:
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> Find a copy of MSDOS 5 or 6 and install Interlink. You need to put the Intersvr
> file on one machine and the Interlnk file on the other. Then all you need is a
> null modem serial cable.
>
> The other option is Laplink. This works in a similar way. Either way you can get


Win 95 supports direct connection via parallel
cable between two machines. You can find it under
"network connection" or something. We used to use
this a couple of years back. Worked alright.
-Roman

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2001\03\22@125218 by Ben Suffolk

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Yes,

You will need to make sure that direct cable networking is installed and then
you can use a serial or parallel cable to set-up a network. You run the server
on one and the client on the other.

This will then allow you to open the other computer through the network
neighbourhood but make sure that you share the relevant folders on the machine
that you are wanting to copy from.

Regards

Ben



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Just recieved a Win95 laptop, with no way of getting anything in or out,
except a 3.5" floppy :(

Isn't there a way to connect to another Win95 computer with just a cable?

Thanks

John

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2001\03\22@204237 by Jim Korman

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John Pearson wrote:
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> Just recieved a Win95 laptop, with no way of getting anything in or out,
> except a 3.5" floppy :(
>
> Isn't there a way to connect to another Win95 computer with just a cable?
>
> Thanks
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> John
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together in some sort of peer-to-peer that Win95 supports.

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2001\03\22@215843 by shane

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Its a bit of a mission getting this to work - it is definitely possible. Instructions:

- you have client for microsoft networks installed on both
- you have file/print sharing installed on both
- you both have a common protocol installed on both - either TCP/IP or NetBeui
- you both log on to the network with a password
- that one/both of the computers have some folders shared. You can share the CDROM on the big computer, and access it from the
laptop. You can then install programs onto the laptop by putting a CDROM in the big computer.
- Run program 'serial connect' under 'programs..accessories' and it should work fine. You may have to go into 'add/remove programs'
and install some more windows components.

Cheers,
Shane.

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2001\03\23@031040 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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Direct Cable Connection can a total PITA to get working, or it might just
work the first time you try it.  Unless you have a specific need for TCP/IP,
then my advice would be to just install NETBUI.  It simplifies the whole
process and more often than not things work first time.  You may also need
to install the Microsoft "dial up adapter".  Once working the system behaves
just like a real peer to peer network, albeit very slow using a serial
cable.  If you are regularly going to be using DCC for file transfer, then a
parallel cable would be a good investment (or even make one yourself), it's
much faster.

Mike

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2001\03\23@040106 by Roman Black

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Michael Rigby-Jones wrote:

> Direct Cable Connection can a total PITA to get working, or it might just
> work the first time you try it.  Unless you have a specific need for TCP/IP,
> then my advice would be to just install NETBUI.  It simplifies the whole
> process and more often than not things work first time.  You may also need
> to install the Microsoft "dial up adapter".  Once working the system behaves
> just like a real peer to peer network, albeit very slow using a serial
> cable.  If you are regularly going to be using DCC for file transfer, then a
> parallel cable would be a good investment (or even make one yourself), it's
> much faster.


Everyone missed my first post? We used to do
this method all the time, Win 95, a standard
null-parallel cable. Just set the settings in
Win95 and it works over the parallel cable fine.
We used it on a number of computers on a regular
basis. No problems. :o)
-Roman

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2001\03\23@042824 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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I guess you've been fortunate then.  Do a search for DCC on the web and you
will find thousands of questions on forums from people trying to get it
working.  Once it's working it's fine, but it can be awkward to set up and
can give some very strange behaviour when it's not working, like pretending
to connect, and then disconnecting within a few minutes.  Or waiting about a
minute for it to verify a password that you haven't given it and then
disconnecting.

Mike

Mike

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2001\03\23@045958 by Alan B. Pearce

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>then a parallel cable would be a good investment
>(or even make one yourself), it's much faster.

Anyone know which pins get swapped - some of the handshake ones must do I would
have thought.

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2001\03\23@075722 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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> >then a parallel cable would be a good investment
> >(or even make one yourself), it's much faster.
>
> Anyone know which pins get swapped - some of the handshake ones must do I
> would
> have thought.
>
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/ghost.nsf/docid/1998121609495725

This shows the standard 4 bit connection.  There is some information on
using the parallel ports ECP mode for even faster connections.  One of the
Windows virtuial device drivers has to be patched however.  Info available
at http://www.lvr.com/files/ecp-dcc.zip

Mike

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2001\03\23@091912 by Roman Black

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Michael Rigby-Jones wrote:

> > this method all the time, Win 95, a standard
> > null-parallel cable. Just set the settings in
> > Win95 and it works over the parallel cable fine.
> > We used it on a number of computers on a regular
> > basis. No problems. :o)
> > -Roman
> >
> I guess you've been fortunate then.  Do a search for DCC on the web and you
> will find thousands of questions on forums from people trying to get it
> working.  Once it's working it's fine, but it can be awkward to set up and
> can give some very strange behaviour when it's not working, like pretending
> to connect, and then disconnecting within a few minutes.  Or waiting about a
> minute for it to verify a password that you haven't given it and then
> disconnecting.


Hi Mike, was this with the parallel or serial
cable? I worked for years on a PC programming team
and we used FX or Win95 with the null parallel cable
and many different computers. FX is my favorite,
I got it ten years ago, don't know if you can still
get it or if it is freeware/shareware etc. I still
use FX to do big data transfers between my two
computers here. Doesn't supprt long file names but is
quick and very reliable. Old habits, I never use long
filenames for work anyway. Heck, if you can't name
it properly with 8 characters you're not trying!!
;o)
-Roman

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2001\03\24@023715 by Peter L. Peres

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What has this to do with PICs ?. There is a 'direct cable connection' in
Windows. It connects two machines by parallel port and 'laplink' cable. If
they run the same version of Windows. Use the help system to find it and
set it up.

Peter

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2001\03\26@023445 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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Actually, both.  I use a parallel cable these days to transfer stuff to and
from my Libretto, but I have had the same problems with serial.  It all
revolved around correctly configuring networking under Windows.  I still
often use an old copy of laplink that has the ability to transfer a copy of
itself to a remote computer that runs DOS, a very clever feature IMO.  Of
course this handles 8.3 filenames only, but I tend to avoid long filenames
like the plague for any work which I might need to transfer between
computers, after some nasty experiences in trying to rename hundreds of
cryptic filenames!

Mike

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