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2002\08\19@061555 by cdb

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Last week the South Australian government discovered that WW2 ended
sixty odd years ago.
So they thought it about time to legally declare peace as it appears
that technically they were still at war!

Strangely, here in Queensland, I didn't see the momentous occasion
noted, in fact I found it reported in a UK paper.

Still if i recall, officially Sweden is still at war with Russia from
1860 something.

I wonder who the US is still at war with and don't know it,one of the
Confederate States perhaps?

And yes just to be fair in the UK, I can tell you that technically it
is still illegal for women to wear makeup - During old Oliver
Crumpwells time women were forbidden to wear any adornment 'Lest it
turn the heads of the Kings men' , it may be in disuse but not
repealed!

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2002\08\19@065826 by Jinx

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> I wonder who the US is still at war with and don't know it,one
> of the Confederate States perhaps?

I think it's true that many taxes around the world, especially
income tax, were originally war-funding taxes. Most of them
were meant to be temporary but have remained, unratified
by parliaments or senates, and definitely were not mandated
by populations at the time they were introduced. They were
given the popular go-ahead as there was no viable alternative
to raising money for the war(s) effort though. I know for sure
there is a group in New Zealand and one in the UK (and possibly
the US I have a feeling) who believe and claim to have evidence
that the income taxes gathered for many decades were and are
still illegal

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2002\08\19@070503 by cdb

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Hmm a bit like a certain Airport tax here that the Powers That Be
will forget to remove.

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2002\08\19@080749 by Ashley Roll

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Hi All,

Being a Queenslander, I though you should know that there are still some
very funky old laws in place here.. If I remember correctly:

It is illegal to park your carriage (motor car is legally defined as a
carriage) in the city without securing it to a hitching post (lest your
horses wander around), now the last time I looked, there were precious few
hitching posts available.. :) So, next time you see a parking officer, what
out if you haven't tied up your car! :P

Cheers,
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2002\08\19@083204 by Alan B. Pearce

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>I know for sure
>there is a group in New Zealand and one in the UK (and possibly
>the US I have a feeling) who believe and claim to have evidence
>that the income taxes gathered for many decades were and are
>still illegal

Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things that are
Caesar's....."

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2002\08\19@083223 by Alan B. Pearce

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>It is illegal to park your carriage (motor car is legally defined as a
>carriage) in the city without securing it to a hitching post (lest your
>horses wander around), now the last time I looked, there were precious few
>hitching posts available.. :) So, next time you see a parking officer, what
>out if you haven't tied up your car! :P

So if I chain the car to a lamp post and they cut the chain to tow it away I
can sue ? ... 8-))))))))

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2002\08\19@090055 by Ashley Roll

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Hi Alan,

Judges not being known for their sense of humour (even in relaxed
Queensland) I'd say you may have a bit of a trick getting that one through
:) But I'd love to see you try, I'm sure it would make the "human interest"
(you know, cat stuck in tree rescued by fireman, crazy Pom chains car to
lamp post to beat parking ticket) segment on the news :)

Cheers,
Ash.

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2002\08\19@091432 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Judges not being known for their sense of humour (even in relaxed
>Queensland) I'd say you may have a bit of a trick getting that one through

Of course the conundrum they would then have is which bit of legislation
applies, or has precedence :)

I wonder how the judge would consider it if he found out I am actually a
Kiwi, just living in the UK :)

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2002\08\19@103958 by Nelson Hochberg

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>It is illegal to park your carriage (motor car is legally defined as a
>carriage) in the city without securing it to a hitching post (lest your
>horses wander around), now the last time I looked, there were precious few
>hitching posts available.. :) So, next time you see a parking officer, what
>out if you haven't tied up your car! :P

Actually, with all the micro controllers in today's car, it might be a good
idea to require tying them to a hitching post.

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2002\08\19@111249 by Jim

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  "Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things
   that are Caesar's....."

It's not so much a disagreement with this precept, but the
method by which the tax is levied: income-tax versus the
paying of import duties (by which the US funded much of
it's operations in the early days) or a system of "use"
taxes/fees.

There have been proposals for a national "sales tax" here
in the US as opposed to the "income" (NOT to be confised
with a "wealth tax") based tax system presently in place.

Most of us have come to the realizationm that taxes must
be paid - it's the means we often argue about.

RF Jim


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2002\08\19@124110 by Roman Black

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Jim wrote:
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>    "Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things
>     that are Caesar's....."

Very wise words and undeniably the meaning is
clear, that Caesar should receive what is his,
ie what he deserves, the amount that truly belongs
to him. :o)

So notice it *doesn't* say:
"render unto Caesar the amount that the latest
government tries to get away with, to cover their
inneficiency and self-voted pay rises and fat
government pensions and money shoveled at whining
minority groups to buy their favour and money unfairly
spent in marginal seat areas just before elections
blah blah"

A robber is a person who takes money from you
without giving an adequate explanation of why they
deserve that amount...
Stirring the pot. ;o)
-Roman

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2002\08\19@175053 by Russell McMahon

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> >    "Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things
> >     that are Caesar's....."

> Very wise words
       > Stirring the pot. ;o)
       > -Roman

From Him, you would have expected otherwise ? :-)

                   stirring the pot some more

                           RM

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2002\08\19@180710 by Mike Mansheim

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> > >    "Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things
> > >     that are Caesar's....."

> > Very wise words
> >         Stirring the pot. ;o)
> >         -Roman

> From Him, you would have expected otherwise ? :-)

>                     stirring the pot some more

>                             RM

him, Roman, for stirring the pot?
Or Him, for wise words?

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2002\08\19@210539 by Russell McMahon

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> > > >    "Ahh, unbelievers in the "render unto Caesar the things
> > > >     that are Caesar's....."
>
> > > Very wise words
> > >         Stirring the pot. ;o)
> > >         -Roman
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> > From Him, you would have expected otherwise ? :-)
>
> >                     stirring the pot some more
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> >                             RM
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> him, Roman, for stirring the pot?
> Or Him, for wise words?

   Him, as the originator of the words :-)


                   RM

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