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2002\02\15@173821 by Jinx

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(This is what I was really looking for at UCSD when I found
the maths jokes)

If you worry about being up late programming and out of
bed at sparrow-fart

http://ucsdnews.ucsd.edu/newsrel/health/sleepstudy.htm

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In the course of time, 10 contradictory studies will emerge

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2002\02\15@180344 by Chris Loiacono

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I heard this yesterday, and it gave me a ray of hope.......
So I'll have a longer life full of sleep deprived days and nights!!!!

That's a good thing, right?

Hey, isn't that the way it works ----bugs are best found between the hours
of 2 & 5 AM when the rest of the worl is turned off, right?!

Chris


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2002\02\15@185721 by Jinx

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> I heard this yesterday, and it gave me a ray of hope.......
> So I'll have a longer life full of sleep deprived days and nights!!!!

The question is - what would you do with an extra hour per day
of being awake ? That's 2 years over the course of 50 years

Balance this against the fact that every 2 hours a day you watch
TV is a month per year. Scary. I'm almost never idle when watching
TV for that very reason. Even if it's something as mundane as
a bit of soldering while I watch the news, at least two birds were
killed with the one stone and I've clawed that hour back

>
> That's a good thing, right?
>
> Hey, isn't that the way it works ----bugs are best found between
> the hours of 2 & 5 AM when the rest of the worl is turned off, right?!

I believe there are definable peaks during the day - 8am, sexual
peak, 2pm intellectual and energetic trough, 8pm, intellectual and
energetic peak, 10pm sexual trough. Probably more but that's
enough to worry about for now. The kind of work we do hasn't any
instant rewards though and you need to be "in the groove" for a
while to get results

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2002\02\15@191018 by kben

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>> I heard this yesterday, and it gave me a ray of hope.......
>> So I'll have a longer life full of sleep deprived days and nights!!!!
>
>The question is - what would you do with an extra hour per day
>of being awake ? That's 2 years over the course of 50 years

Speaking for the nightshift crew with lack of sleep

Read PICLIST posts, what else ???

~Kevin  ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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2002\02\16@080049 by Benjamin Bromilow

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Lots of press interest in this paper here in the UK. Interesting paper
though......
The good thing about it is that it accepts that it has found an
"association" and doesn't try to imply (like many other papers) that there
is anything stronger. It also accepts that more research is needed....
The problem with "association" papers is that the press gets hold of them
and writes things like "Link found between MMR and autism" (which people
read as "MMR causes autism") and then the whole thing kicks off.
There are many criteria which need to be fulfilled before a link and
causation are proven.
Lets not get started on Dr "MMR" Wakefield's stats and logic anyway- his
double hit phenomenon was based upon retrospective observations on one
patient!
The sleep/mortality study does have a very large sample size which is always
good. However, I always worry about studies which look at so many variables
from the very beginning. It's not so much a hypothesis proving exercise,
more of a fishing trip...
Thinking of the association problem, I remember my teacher in critical
reading telling us of the association between increased stork numbers and
increased new born babies after WWII. It even proves a long held belief :)

Ben

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2002\02\17@212951 by Russell McMahon

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> The sleep/mortality study does have a very large sample size which is
always
> good. However, I always worry about studies which look at so many
variables
> from the very beginning. It's not so much a hypothesis proving exercise,
> more of a fishing trip...

Yes, Certainly doesn't prove or even suggest causality. Perhaps people
wholiove longer sleep less. Perhaps ...

> Thinking of the association problem, I remember my teacher in critical
> reading telling us of the association between increased stork numbers and
> increased new born babies after WWII. It even proves a long held belief :)

In this case an obvious correlation suggests itself - the end of the war
would have created a more benign and hopeful environment for both species.
Then again, it could be that ... :-)



       RM

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