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2002\05\05@192411 by Jinx

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I was given a unit supposed to be either an in-car TV or
TV + navigation aid. Unfortunately it's marked in Japanese
and I haven't found an English version. If anyone has a little
time to translate the legends I'd be most appreciative. I've
done the best frame grabs I can with my camcorder but if
some of it is unclear I can do it with a digital camera. It looks
to me as if the characters in the top buttons are Chinese (?) -
they're certainly a different style to the rest of the markings

http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/xtaltron.html

A couple of (obvious) clues. The 12VDC supply came with
it and plugged into the socket with "AV" in the lettering was
an adapter for two RCA sockets to a 3.5mm stereo plug.

It also has a telescopic TV aerial, battery compartment for
8 x AA, a flange or tripod mounting on the bottom and a
large belt-clip on the back. The front appears to have an IR
receiver

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2002\05\05@223104 by SM Ling

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Jinx,

1 = antenna
2 = AV input
3 = earphone
4 = diversity ?
5 = standby
6 = dc in
7 = selection
8 = change input
9 = power status
10 = auto. preset
11 = manual memory
12 =  selection
13 = volume

cheers, Ling SM


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2002\05\05@230928 by Martin T. Baker

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If I remember correctly, " diversity" could be translated as " contrast", fwiw

Good luck... sounds like a cool toy.

Martin

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2002\05\05@234935 by Jinx

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> cheers, Ling SM

Thank you very much

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2002\05\05@235138 by Jinx

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> Good luck... sounds like a cool toy.

Toy ? Jinx has no need for toys !!!!  Toys are for
children - this is an "indispensable gadget" ;-)))

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2002\05\06@042911 by Jochen Feldhaar

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Jinx schrieb:
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> > Good luck... sounds like a cool toy.
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> Toy ? Jinx has no need for toys !!!!  Toys are for
> children - this is an "indispensable gadget" ;-)))

That's what the grown-ups call their toys ;-)))

Jochen

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2002\05\06@045209 by Jinx

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> That's what the grown-ups call their toys ;-)))
>
> Jochen

I don't think I'm going to have much to play with. The
signal from my PAL VCR gets to the screen but is
b/w with no vertical hold (ie the picture rolls). I assume
this is a SECAM unit for the Japanese domestic market,
which is a shame as I hoped I could use the screen for
a couple of little PIC projects. boo hoo sniff

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2002\05\06@120439 by Peter L. Peres

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On Mon, 6 May 2002, Jinx wrote:

>> That's what the grown-ups call their toys ;-)))
>>
>> Jochen
>
>I don't think I'm going to have much to play with. The
>signal from my PAL VCR gets to the screen but is
>b/w with no vertical hold (ie the picture rolls). I assume
>this is a SECAM unit for the Japanese domestic market,
>which is a shame as I hoped I could use the screen for
>a couple of little PIC projects. boo hoo sniff

Japan has a peculiar version of NTSC, not SECAM. Normally you can view it
on a multistandard TV. Is yours multistandard ?

Peter

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2002\05\06@125017 by Eoin Ross

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Thats the standard display mode when putting an NTSC video signals into a PAL TV/VCR. I tried playing an NTSC tape in an NZ VCR before coming to the US

On Mon, 6 May 2002, Jinx wrote:
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>I don't think I'm going to have much to play with. The
>signal from my PAL VCR gets to the screen but is
>b/w with no vertical hold (ie the picture rolls).
<snip>

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2002\05\06@130636 by Herbert Graf

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I believe (from my experience with ATI All-in-wonder cards) that Japan's
NTSC is "close enough" for many NA TV's to catch on too. Sometimes the
colour is a little off but it's definately watchable. The biggest issue
though is channels, the channel assignments in Japan are vastly different on
the low end, so much so that you miss out on quite a few channels, but this
shouldn't affect you. TTYL

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2002\05\06@162503 by Jinx

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> Japan has a peculiar version of NTSC, not SECAM.

You're correct...SECAM is a little to the left in the old USSR

> Normally you can view it on a multistandard TV. Is yours
> multistandard ?

My Mitsubishi VCR is PAL only but there's a Sony VCR
here that has PAL or NTSC o/p, I'll try it out some time
today. Not given up on using it for something PICcy

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2002\05\06@170611 by Barry Gershenfeld

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Does your "little" PIC project need to generate a
color subcarrier?   Even so you can "adjust" the
software to fit your hardware.  Just make it
generate whatever the display wants.

Barry

>> Japan has a peculiar version of NTSC, not SECAM.
>
>You're correct...SECAM is a little to the left in the old USSR

System Essentially Contrary to the American Method

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2002\05\06@184949 by Jinx

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> Does your "little" PIC project need to generate a
> color subcarrier?   Even so you can "adjust" the
> software to fit your hardware.  Just make it
> generate whatever the display wants.
>
> Barry

I'm fully expecting not an easy ride - I'll have a look inside
the unit and around the web to find out what needs doing

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2002\05\07@182237 by Peter L. Peres

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On Tue, 7 May 2002, Jinx wrote:

>> Japan has a peculiar version of NTSC, not SECAM.
>
>You're correct...SECAM is a little to the left in the old USSR

.. and a little down in all the ex-USSR-loving areas, and even to the
left, way up to France, where the standard originated. I have a map on the
wall at work that illustrates this so it's easy for me to joke ;-). Anyway
if you live in an area with propagation problems (as in, large,
featureless plain), and have lots of change for Xmitter power, then go
with SECAM. It's S/N is better than anything else for strong signals even
in areas with strong reflexions (it transmits color as FM instead of PAL
and NTSC which are PM).

>> Normally you can view it on a multistandard TV. Is yours
>> multistandard ?
>
>My Mitsubishi VCR is PAL only but there's a Sony VCR
>here that has PAL or NTSC o/p, I'll try it out some time
>today. Not given up on using it for something PICcy

You need PAL or NTSC I/P !!!

good luck,

Peter

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2002\05\07@183233 by Jinx

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> You need PAL or NTSC I/P !!!

The initial excitement has definitely paled somewhat. It
will now have to get in line like all the rest of the jobs
that need doing - meaning I'll probably wipe the dust off
it in 6 months time

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