Post by thread:[OT]:Formatting a 80GB Hard Drive

> how to format a 80GB hard drive ..... the drive is not new > and it is already NTFS formated ...... Do you want to reformat the entire drive or a partition on it? What are you trying to do with the drive and/or partitions? To receive a "good" answer, you need to provide more details. Here's some general information that may answer your question. If you want to format the entire drive, then you need a utility provided by the drive manufacturer. Usually you can download it from the manufacturer's web site -- assuming that you are using an Intel-style architecture CPU and IDE/ATA or SCSI disk. General availability is harder for other, odd interfaces or for non-Intel architecture systems. Your mention of "already NTFS formated" implies you are working at the partition level and within Windows NT/2000/XP. If so, use the Microsoft provided utilities to repartition it and/or reformat it (such as fdisk, format, or Disk Administrator). If you're switching to another operating system, such as Linux or NetBSD, use the utilties that come with it to manipulate the partition tables and/or format the partitions. Lee Jones -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Hello Guys! > how to format a 80GB hard drive ..... the drive is not new and it is > already NTFS formated ...... > Regards, > Salah. if you're looking to put a clean windows install on the drive: - make a dos boot disk (presumably the mention of NTFS means you're sticking windows on it) - boot from it. - run fdisk. - then format. alternatively, you can use the formatting tools with the winnt/2k/xp installer, but they're a bit fiddly in comparison. if you're got the money get Partition Magic, it's a very nice graphical tool for repartitioning. if you're attaching the drive to an existing system, just plug it in, then locate the drive manager section (should be listed seperately under admin tools for NT4, will be under admin tools->computer management for 2K/XP.) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

What type of file system? If you are using W9x/ME and are going to format it for FAT32 you probably have to get new versions of the format and fdisk utilities. Take a look at: support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q263/0/44.ASP http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q263/0/45.ASP Ruben {Quote hidden}> Hello Guys! > how to format a 80GB hard drive ..... the drive is not new and it > is > already NTFS formated ...... > Regards, > Salah. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > ============================== Ruben Jvnsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malmv, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 spam_OUTrubenTakeThisOuTpp.sbbs.se ============================== -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

To reflect Scott Dattalo's (and others') sentiment, what does partitioning a HDD have to do with PICs? I know that there may be people who know this, or who are interested in speed of light discussions or what things people blew up 20 years ago, but I am close do desubscribing because of the noise. I really enjoy learning from and contributing to the piclist, although gave up once before (before the labelling) because of this. I know that I could just desubscribe from OT, but it would seem to make more sense if people interested in other topics discussed them on the appropriate boards. ... yes I know, I've probably gone and started a 20-post thread on a subject unrelated to PICs ... Simon. --- On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 12:44:05AM -0700, Lee Jones wrote: {Quote hidden}> > how to format a 80GB hard drive ..... the drive is not new > > and it is already NTFS formated ...... > > Do you want to reformat the entire drive or a partition on it? > > What are you trying to do with the drive and/or partitions? > > To receive a "good" answer, you need to provide more details. > Here's some general information that may answer your question. > > If you want to format the entire drive, then you need a utility > provided by the drive manufacturer. Usually you can download > it from the manufacturer's web site -- assuming that you are > using an Intel-style architecture CPU and IDE/ATA or SCSI disk. > General availability is harder for other, odd interfaces or for > non-Intel architecture systems. > > Your mention of "already NTFS formated" implies you are working > at the partition level and within Windows NT/2000/XP. If so, > use the Microsoft provided utilities to repartition it and/or > reformat it (such as fdisk, format, or Disk Administrator). > > If you're switching to another operating system, such as Linux > or NetBSD, use the utilties that come with it to manipulate the > partition tables and/or format the partitions. > > Lee Jones > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Hi Simon and others, This is on the OT tag IE OFF TOPIC. If the noise is too much on this tag, then unsubscribe to the OT posts. You do not need to be subscribed to all tags, just the ones you want. If all you want is PIC then just keep the pic tag. Full details on doing this are found on this page: http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/listfaq.htm But cause I am such a nice girl here is the relevent part: You can now turn on or off any of the topic channels by sending SET PICLIST TOPICS: followed by a plus or minus sign and the topic tag (without the colon) to .....LISTSERVKILLspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU. If you don't want advertisements, click on: LISTSERVKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BAD%5D> or if you do: .....LISTSERVKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20+%5BAD%5D If you don't want posts that are not about PICs or at least electrical engineering, turn off the [OT]: channel by clicking on: EraseMELISTSERVspam_OUTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BOT%5D> when you get board try: LISTSERVspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20+%5BOT%5D For no general engineering (but still PIC engineering) posts use: @spam@LISTSERVKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BEE%5D> or turn [EE]: back on with KILLspamLISTSERVKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20+%5BEE%5D If you don't care to hear about the Atmel AVR processors, click on: RemoveMELISTSERVTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BAVR%5D> or if you do: spamBeGoneLISTSERVspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20+%5BAVR%5D If you don't care to hear about the Scenix SX processors, click on: TakeThisOuTLISTSERVEraseMEspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-%5BSX%5D> or if you do: RemoveMELISTSERVTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20+%5BSX%5D One special channel that should be mentioned is the Other: channel. This is were posts that don't have the correct topic tags are sent. If you are seeing untagged post, you have the Other: channel enabled. You can turn off the Other: channel by sending SET PICLIST TOPICS: -Other to LISTSERVEraseME.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU EraseMELISTSERVMITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-other We have included the brackets in most topic tags so that people can subscribe to both [PIC]: and [OT]: and then filter the [OT]:'s into another folder for later (low priority) reading... or other such stuff like that. [ADMIN]: posts (about the list but not related to the list topic) will be sent to topic ALL: which is a special tag that sends the message to all subscribers no matter what. We will still include [ADMIN]: after the ALL: to let people know that it is an admin post. Regards, Kat. ********************************************** K.A.Q. Electronics. Electronic and Software Engineering. Perth, Western Australia. Ph +61 (0) 419 923 731 ********************************************** --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

{Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: Dominic Stratten [SMTP:RemoveMEsalesEraseMEEraseMEpicparts.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:01 AM > To: RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]:Formatting a 80GB Hard Drive > > I second this comment - I think we should keep the bandwidth available for > the Piclist for Pic related (or very similar) discussions. I'm not > knocking > Salah for his post - there's been a lot of OT posting recently but I think > we should respect the Piclist for what it is and keep it relevant. > > By veering off target, we're using bandwidth, clogging up peoples inboxes, > wasting storage space on the Piclist server and adding to search times, > indexing times etc. > > Some of the off target stuff is interesting but does not warrant 30-40 > witty > replies (funny as some of them are ;-) > > Please please please think twice before posting off target or adding your > 2 > cents worth ( I'm just as guilty as the rest of you ). > > Any one else want to back me up ????? > > Cheers > > Dominic > No. This is exactly WHY the tagging system was created. You don't even have to do the filtering on your own mail client if you just instruct the list server to stop sending OT tagged mails. It was decided some time ago that this was preferable to banning all OT threads. Regards Mike -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> No. This is exactly WHY the tagging system was created. You don't even > have to do the filtering on your own mail client if you just instruct the > list server to stop sending OT tagged mails. It was decided some time ago > that this was preferable to banning all OT threads. > Ok, but OT should not mean "totally unrelated to anything to do with the PIC" - rather it should mean "not specifically PIC-related but on similar lines" For example, if you want advice on building PCBs or robotic drivetrains then fine, post an OT. If you want to talk about taxes, speed of light decreasing or HDD reformatting, find a more appropriate list or go down the pub. That way you'll probably get better advice also. I know we have filtering, but I don't think that this is an excuse to start unrelated threads just for the hell of it. Simon. --- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

The [OT]: and other threads discussion goes waaaaay back. As far as I can tell from a quick look in my personal PICLIst archive, Simon has been onlist since August 2002 and Sid since March 2002. Now there's absolutely nothing worng (of course) with being new to a list BUT if you really care about the philosophy and why's and wherefores behind the tag system it might be educational to have a look back through the archives. The tag system grew out of extensive and extended discussion about what does and doesn't belong on a list like this. What "a list like this" means was also debated at length. Be aware (as some here will be and some will disgree with and some will want to discuss and some wont =care and ... :-) ) that this is NOT just a technical list. This is an international family - about 2000 strong and dynamic in membership. While the core familt value is meant to be PICanalia (like Baccanalia but different) the general other interests of the family are also relevant. There are some things that the family has explicitly decided not to talk about (actually it was Mom & Pop who decided but most of the boys and girsl also agreed.) Apart from that, it's generally felt that matters raised should be of potential interest to a substantial number of list members AND be tagged appropriately so that those who wish can abstain from the more exotic excursions. If a family member who is suitably PICanalian wants to know about formatting an 80GB hard drive then the OT tag is absolutely fine for this. If this changed to a thread about all the technical aspects of modern hard drives then perhaps another forum would be better. One of the biggest sins is taking a thread and perverting it completely but leaving the tag (OT) or otherwise unchanged, as has happened with this thread. Maybe this should by now be called "Yet another discussion about the PICLIST tag system". At least then people who subscribe to [OT]: can easily mentally filter the messages by subject line. I am a prolific [OT]: poster (as you are probably aware :-) )( whoever you are). MOSTLY these are pointers to technically interesting sites for the ever young of mind and broad of interest. In the vast majority of cases they are intended to be of potential interest to a substantial proportion of the PICList membership. In many cases they are. I get a steady trickle of offlist messages commenting favourably on these posts. If I post something with another tag it's almost certainly because, in my judgement, it belongs there. Sometimes, but very seldom, there is another reason. I posted my "Speed of Light" messages under [EE]: because I decided that was really where they belonged - if you don't see where this fits into EE that's fine. Apart from my own messages I believe there were 2 or 3 responses on this and none were intended as technically useful comment. However, the number of references in the 80 GB HDD thread to this post have (I think) far exceeded those which actually relate. If something is reeeeally out there then if you ignore it, Jinx will make a traditionally silly and/or humorous comment, Peter C will complain about the Creation Scientists, and life will then continue much as before. Losing the flexibility we have now would be a very great shame. Those who can't stand the current OT topics (of which constancy of light speed is not one :-) )(but the better part of 12 odd posts NOT on 80 GB drives are) should read through the archive history to see how we got to where we are. To no doubt misquote some savant "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" Russell McMahon > > No. This is exactly WHY the tagging system was created. You don't even > > have to do the filtering on your own mail client if you just instruct the > > list server to stop sending OT tagged mails. It was decided some time ago > > that this was preferable to banning all OT threads. > > > Ok, but OT should not mean "totally unrelated to anything to do with the PIC" > - rather it should mean "not specifically PIC-related but on similar lines" NO - see above. > For example, if you want advice on building PCBs or robotic drivetrains then > fine, post an OT. No - probably EE > If you want to talk about taxes elsewhere >, speed of light decreasing > or HDD reformatting, OT > I know we have filtering, but I don't think that this is an excuse to start > unrelated threads just for the hell of it. I agree. RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Simon Bryden wrote: > Ok, I accept that and bow to the consensus that was obviously reached then. I > will unsubscribe to OT, (actually it seems like someone took matters into > their own hands and unsubscribed me - I only received ~20 non-OT messages per > day over the last two days). Nope, if you drop [OT] you won't see *any*. And we rarely change subscription options for people, except those who get set to NOMAIL because their mailbox is full or whatever. > I will miss some of the useful pointers from you and others, but for > the rest I can't afford the bandwidth. There are also searchable archives on the piclist.com web site and elsewhere, should you wish to browse throught the OT topics once in a while to see what you're missing. Dale (PICList admin #4, I think) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

I maintain a "techo" list of people who are interested that I send items of interest *to me* to. Many but not all of these also get sent to PICList. Most are short references to sites. Some are my own comments or notes of varying length These may be anything that takes my interest but will be biased towards technology & science. These almost never feature religious or philosophical references - occasionally they may if the material falls in several areas at once or (very occasionally) if I just feel like it's a good idea. Anyone who wants to is welcome to have their name added to the list. You can also ask for it to be removed at any time so the cost of trying is low. I absolutely do not sell or give these names to anyone else. The recipients will almost always be anonymous to others (messages are sent to "Friends"). Very occasionally I may slip up and place the list in the TO field rather than BCC - while I try not to do this its caveat emptor (the price is right). If you want a source of probably interesting OT that is more techo topic focused than what you get generally on PICList but somewhat wider in scope than what I usually post on PICList OT (can it be?) then by all means ask to have your name added to the list. Can be removed again if the material proves uninteresting. Much but not all material will be duplicates of my PICList OT posts. Russell McMahon {Original Message removed}

>For example, if you want advice on building PCBs or robotic >drivetrains then fine, post an OT. Well actually the example you give is what the [EE]: tag was designed for :) >If you want to talk about taxes, speed of light decreasing >or HDD reformatting, find a more appropriate list or go down >the pub. That way you'll probably get better advice also. Maybe, but I would have said that the item in the subject line is exactly what the [OT]: tag is for. It may even be vaguely PIC related if it is the machine the man runs MPLAB on :) If you have problems with the amount of stuff on [OT]:, do what I do, sort by topic, and do a mass delete of items under that topic without reading them. This would take considerably less time than writing than writing the mail complaining about it.:) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body