Post by thread:[OT]: document dismantling, was Breaking Code Prot

Alan B. Pearce wrote: > However be aware that things are changing in the rest of the world. We have > been notified of a requirement relating to copyright law here in the UK > which changes soon (1 March IIRC) where it is no longer valid to copy an > article under "reasonable use" provisions where the use is commercial. Even > though the company owns a copy of the journal, a further copyright fee is > payable for a photocopy. > > I would think that "pulling pages" from a PDF could be covered under this as > well. Now given that no fee is payable as the document is published on a > website is a side issue to this, the company wants to keep the document > complete and intact, which is not unreasonable. Well remember laws are made by *us*, and it is *us* who make the decision whether to obey said laws or whether they are crap... As with the recent rulings pushed through government by Sony to protect their *own* massive profits at the expense of the general rights of the rest of humanity. If you buy a copy of a magazine you are entitled to read/use it as you see fit, ie copy scan photograph it for your own use in any way imaginable. If you are copying some or all of it to re-sell (ie for profit) you are in the wrong. If you are doing it for convenience to store the information you HAVE ALREADY PURCHASED for *your own reading* you are in the right. It absolutely dismays me that intelligent minds rush to blindy obey new "laws" which are only existant because selfish mega-corporations have put pressure on incompetent politicians in countries where the voting population either don't know or don't care... Next you are going to tell me that if I release a software program where the semi-incomprehensible fine print says "if you click this button you have to give me everything you ever earned" that I truly deserve to receive that? Because I was able to manipulate you *just enough* to press that button knowing that 99% of you didn't read it and pressed that button to achieve a result and not to notify agreement?? A "law" is somehting that benefits humanity. If a "law" only benefits a selfish elite mega corporation at the expense of the rest of humanity it's not a law, its a crime. -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

At 01:40 AM 2/28/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Here, here. > >To sum up what Roman is saying in an old adage, probably slightly >misquoted... >"Laws are guidelines to the intelligent, and followed blindly only by the >ignorant." I'll note in passing that the protection is easily circumvented (more than just removing the lines below, however), for example to eliminate the buggy first page from the ICD2 manual, but it is illegal. Unenforced laws have their own problems- they give undue power to those who can decide to enforce selectively. --- "This is pretty amazing," said Siva Vaidhyanathan, professor of the School of Library and Information Studies at the University of Wisconsin at Madison. "I never thought that the DMCA criminal provisions would be actively used. (Anti-piracy efforts) are usually all about threat and bluster and money." --- Here's one of the two protection segments that is included in the Microchip document (I think they distilled with Adobe's default settings, no password was set) --- %%BeginDocument: Pscript_Win_PassThrough % Removing the following eight lines is illegal, subject to the Digital Copyright Act of 1998. mark currentfile eexec 54dc5232e897cbaaa7584b7da7c23a6c59e7451851159cdbf40334cc2600 30036a856fabb196b3ddab71514d79106c969797b119ae4379c5ac9b7318 33471fc81a8e4b87bac59f7003cddaebea2a741c4e80818b4b136660994b 18a85d6b60e3c6b57cc0815fe834bc82704ac2caf0b6e228ce1b2218c8c7 67e87aef6db14cd38dda844c855b4e9c46d510cab8fdaa521d67cbb83ee1 af966cc79653b9aca2a5f91f908bbd3f06ecc0c940097ec77e210e6184dc 2f5777aacfc6907d43f1edb490a2a89c9af5b90ff126c0c3c5da9ae99f59 d47040be1c0336205bf3c6169b1b01cd78f922ec384cd0fcab955c0c20de 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 cleartomark PDF /docinitialize get exec --- I'd like to be able to lead a crusade to tell manufacturers I won't use their product until they fix their datasheets, but no time for that.. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" spam_OUTspeffTakeThisOuTinterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics