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2002\02\03@225437 by Rudy Rudy

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YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!

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2002\02\03@231207 by Jinx

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> YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!

I thought NE were awfully mean and beastly not to let STL
score more points. Whatever's happened in that hotbed of
politically correct level playing field everyone's a winner it
should've been a draw ?

Think how those poor STL players and their mothers are
feeling right now. Shame on you Rudy, shame on you ;-)))

(best of 3 ? 5 ? 7 ?)

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2002\02\03@231625 by Tom Messenger

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At 11:02 PM 2/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
>YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!

What? Bowling? And I missed it? Damn!

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2002\02\03@232911 by Herbert Graf

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> YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!

       I don't know, personally I can't stand "football", I'm just glad it's all
over so I won't have the shows I want pre-empted by football games anymore.
Curious though, weren't the patriots the underdogs? TTYL

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2002\02\03@234839 by Chris Loiacono

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I thought the 1/2 time show was pretty low-tech, coompared to the Tampa game
last year. That was last year, wasn't it?
Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?
C

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2002\02\04@031423 by Tim H.

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The technology behind the 1st & Ten  line is actually quite cool! Take a
look here:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/first-down-line.htm


Regards,

Tim Hamel

Chris Loiacono wrote:
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> I thought the 1/2 time show was pretty low-tech, coompared to the Tampa game
> last year. That was last year, wasn't it?
> Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?
> C
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2002\02\04@035253 by Mike Blakey

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What is a super bowl?





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The technology behind the 1st & Ten  line is actually quite cool! Take a
look here:

http://www.howstuffworks.com/first-down-line.htm


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Tim Hamel

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> I thought the 1/2 time show was pretty low-tech, coompared to the Tampa game
> last year. That was last year, wasn't it?
> Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?
> C
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2002\02\04@045220 by Claudio Tagliola

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What is a super bowl?

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2002\02\04@060821 by Vit

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> The technology behind the 1st & Ten  line is actually quite cool! Take a
> look here:
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> http://www.howstuffworks.com/first-down-line.htm

That *is* cool.  But I wonder what would happen if a player's shirt (or
better yet, the number on the shirt) matches the color of the grass...
Kinda like the early days of the television - if the background was dark,
you could see the gymnast, but you couldn't see his shorts (they blended
in), and vice versa.

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2002\02\04@064144 by Jinx

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> > http://www.howstuffworks.com/first-down-line.htm
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> But I wonder what would happen if a player's shirt

Pages 2 & 3 explain how the system uses two palettes -
one for colours that can be drawn on and those that can't

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2002\02\04@091546 by Mitch Miller

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> Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?

Yeah, I always thought that was pretty clever how they make it look like
it's actually laying just above the turf ... I'd have thought if they put
it up via some form of post-processing, that it would look like a solid
stripe across our screen, on top of players, etc.  Must be some pretty
cool processing going on there.

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2002\02\04@094922 by Jon Baker

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> > Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our
screens?
>
> Yeah, I always thought that was pretty clever how they make it look like
> it's actually laying just above the turf ... I'd have thought if they put
> it up via some form of post-processing, that it would look like a solid
> stripe across our screen, on top of players, etc.  Must be some pretty
> cool processing going on there.

Well, I missed the Superbowl but I've been watching some of the ski jumping
on TV
and they have been superimposing the contestants flag onto the snow at the
bottom of the
slope. Looks quite realistic and must be more complex than the yellow stripe
because it can't rely
on the colour palette. Theres a helluva lota white in those images.

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2002\02\04@102220 by Roman Black

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Mitch Miller wrote:
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> > Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?
>
> Yeah, I always thought that was pretty clever how they make it look like
> it's actually laying just above the turf ... I'd have thought if they put
> it up via some form of post-processing, that it would look like a solid
> stripe across our screen, on top of players, etc.  Must be some pretty
> cool processing going on there.

It should be pretty easy to detect the green
turf, not much green elsewhere. In RGB that's
very easy, then some simple size or detail-change
(movement) stuff to remove the players. Then just
put the line over the bright-green non-moving
bits. :o)
-Roman

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2002\02\04@103522 by M. Adam Davis

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The easy part is putting the line on the green and not the players.  The
hard part is determining the perspective that should be used for a given
moving camera view...

-Adam

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2002\02\04@103810 by M. Adam Davis

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The game was actually played saturday and they had hundreds of disney
artists working overnight coloring in the line...

;-)

Having been brutally forced to watch several UofM football games in the
recent past, I've seen this in use for the last 1-2 years.  Fun stuff -
lots of processing.

I can't wait for the next post to the piclist:
"We have a neighborhood footbal team and we want to put a yellow stripe
on the video for the first down - Can you all write the pic code for us
that'll do that?"

To which I'll respond,
"Wait until we're done with this mp3 decoder on the 12c508 first..."

-Adam

Chris Loiacono wrote:

>I thought the 1/2 time show was pretty low-tech, coompared to the Tampa game
>last year. That was last year, wasn't it?
>Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our screens?
>C
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2002\02\04@104406 by Roman Black

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Not at all, if the camera is in a fixed postion
relative to the green the perspective stays the
same and it's very easy to map. You only need the
2 edge lines start and finish, then move a %
down those lines with time.

If the camera is in a close-up it looks impressive
but I imagine the close up can be related to the
fixed camera if the close up cam is also fixed
at a known location.
-Roman


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2002\02\04@110242 by Alan B. Pearce

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>> Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines on our
>>screens?

> Yeah, I always thought that was pretty clever how they make it look like
> it's actually laying just above the turf ... I'd have thought if they put
> it up via some form of post-processing, that it would look like a solid
> stripe across our screen, on top of players, etc.  Must be some pretty
> cool processing going on there.

I have seen these done on the BBC Cricket commentaries as well. At least
that moves slow enough that their is time for the DSP to draw the lines
;))))))))

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2002\02\04@112807 by Jon Baker

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> > Yeah, I always thought that was pretty clever how they make it look like
> > it's actually laying just above the turf ... I'd have thought if they
put
> > it up via some form of post-processing, that it would look like a solid
> > stripe across our screen, on top of players, etc.  Must be some pretty
> > cool processing going on there.
>
> I have seen these done on the BBC Cricket commentaries as well. At least
> that moves slow enough that their is time for the DSP to draw the lines
> ;))))))))

I think the FX they use to show the trajectory of the cricket ball from all
kinds of angles
is impressive.. Yellow stripes are kids stuff compared with following a ball
at 140kph.

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2002\02\04@114441 by Bob Barr

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On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 23:30:14 -0500, Herbert Graf wrote:

>> YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!
>
>        I don't know, personally I can't stand "football", I'm just glad it's all
>over so I won't have the shows I want pre-empted by football games anymore.
>Curious though, weren't the patriots the underdogs? TTYL

I heard that the Las Vegas betting line had the Patriots as 14 point
underdogs.

What a finish!!!

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2002\02\04@144414 by Jinx

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> >> Does anyone know how they impose the yellow 1st down lines
> >> on our screens ?

Virtual Spectator is a New Zealand company "on the foreskin
of technology" wrt to 3D TV animations. Selling their products
to broadcasters all over de place, and I know US stations are
amongst their customers

http://www.virtualspectator.com/allsports/who_is_vs.asp

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2002\02\04@144806 by Chris Loiacono

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So I guess it's not quiet ready for baseball then, is it? What about
Florida's other favorite sport, Jai-Alai? That cricket ball is relatively
creeping along....
c
How about the doppler set-up used for clocking MLB pitch speed....That
could actually be a microcontroller application, couldn't it. I wonder how
they focus on that little ball at 100 mph?,  Hmmm...

OK, OK, just kidding.

c


I think the FX they use to show the trajectory of the cricket ball from all
kinds of angles
is impressive.. Yellow stripes are kids stuff compared with following a ball
at 140kph.

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2002\02\04@144809 by Jinx

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> I think the FX they use to show the trajectory of the cricket ball
> from all kinds of angles is impressive.. Yellow stripes are kids
> stuff compared with following a ball at 140kph

I'm pretty sure that's VS (link in other post). Take a look at the
"Cricket" page

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2002\02\04@185851 by Bob Ammerman

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> It should be pretty easy to detect the green
> turf, not much green elsewhere. In RGB that's
> very easy, then some simple size or detail-change
> (movement) stuff to remove the players. Then just
> put the line over the bright-green non-moving
> bits. :o)
> -Roman

Until the game is in a snowstorm, or on a field getting progressively
muddier, or one of the teams has green in their uniform, or ...

It really is ratther impressive.

Bob Ammerman
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2002\02\04@232441 by Jon Baker

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> > It should be pretty easy to detect the green
> > turf, not much green elsewhere. In RGB that's
> > very easy, then some simple size or detail-change
> > (movement) stuff to remove the players. Then just
> > put the line over the bright-green non-moving
> > bits. :o)
> > -Roman
>
> Until the game is in a snowstorm, or on a field getting progressively
> muddier, or one of the teams has green in their uniform, or ...

Hmm, snowstorms made me think about this for a while and I came up with a
simple solution to players wearing green- what if you were to use an IR
camera in addition to the camera the 'audience' sees.. that way the coloured
overlay could be restricted by not only the green of the grass, but the
temperature of the object, and in the case of grass vs human there would be
a significant enough difference to be able to decide whether the green
belonged to a persons outfit or whether it was organic.

Jon Baker

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2002\02\05@103650 by Josh Koffman

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I agree, the half time show wasn't great, at least from a technical
standpoint. The one cool effect was the giant Kabuki drop. I was
impressed with how it looked as it fell.

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> I thought the 1/2 time show was pretty low-tech, coompared to the Tampa game
> last year. That was last year, wasn't it?

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2002\02\07@145139 by Naicker

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I dont want to be rude , but can you explain the name/e-mail ?

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YEAHHHHH!!!  GO PATRIOTS, THE SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS!!!
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2002\02\07@223759 by Rudy Rudy

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***ROTFLMFAO***

okay...  I guess some people in the PIClist must be wondering about
that by now.  I have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the movie "Rudy"
about football.  It's all an extremely funny coincidence.

My official name in the U.S. is indeed Rudy Rudy (yup, no kidding!
It's the real thing.  With more than a dozen paper saying I am "Rudy
Rudy", I better be!).  The detail of the story of how I ended up with
this name is on my website: http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html

I know someone is going to ask sooner or later. :-)  I have had a blast
having this name for the last 5 years.  I find it extremely funny that
people in the PIClist haven't asked, probably because they are afraid
of being rude, or simply not interested, or both.  So, thanks for
asking!

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2002\02\07@232326 by Jinx

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> http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html

My guess for FNU was "First Name Unavailable", but as you
later point out, it's "Unknown". A step up from "Father Unknown"
eh ?

Nice "friend" who'd sell you your own web site name

Make your first name F N U    -  "crazy FUN" ?

Harry Truman did it - Harry S Truman (the S stands for no
name, and no full stop)

Not to be confused with Hairy Ass Truman, as I heard a TV
character called Truman made fun of

New York, New York - so good they named it twice ?

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2002\02\08@110108 by Douglas Butler

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When I was in college there was a cute forign girl who's name was listed
as Apri Aprihamien (sp?).  Actually where she was born (I forget) girls
didn't rate first names.  She was just Mr Aprihamien's first daughter.
Fortunately in the next 18 years she become important enough to send to
a US engineering school, but she still had no first name.  The school
registrar required one so she took Apri.

Sherpa Doug

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2002\02\08@114314 by Dipperstein, Michael

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> > http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html
>
> My guess for FNU was "First Name Unavailable", but as you
> later point out, it's "Unknown". A step up from "Father Unknown"
> eh ?

I'm pretty sure FNU stands for FNU Not Unix. :-)

I used to work on a navy base, and the I.D. badges that people were issued were
all printed with a first name, middle initial, and last name.  One of my
coworkers had a middle initial of NMI.  It wasn't until I met somebody else with
a middle initials of NMI that I realized NMI weren't the initials for three
middle names.  They were an acronym for No Middle Initial.

-Mike

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2002\02\08@130309 by Bob Barr

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On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:41:27 -0500, "Dipperstein, Michael" wrote:

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>I used to work on a navy base, and the I.D. badges that people were issued were
>all printed with a first name, middle initial, and last name.  One of my
>coworkers had a middle initial of NMI.  It wasn't until I met somebody else with
>a middle initials of NMI that I realized NMI weren't the initials for three
>middle names.  They were an acronym for No Middle Initial.
>

I ran into a problem with the Navy when it came time to name my life
insurance beneficiary.
My father and I had the same first name and the same middle initial
but different middle names. The Navy had no provision for handling
that situation. They insisted that I just *had* to be a 'Junior',
which I wasn't.
I ended up having to name my mother as the beneficiary.

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2002\02\08@130436 by Rudy Rudy

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That's the FUNNIEST one I have heard...  Over the last four years, many
friends had come up with funny stuffs trying to decode FNU.  By far,
yours is the funniest!

and to Jinx, may be you are right about that being First Name
Unavailable.  I have no way of checking, except by going back to the
Indonesian embassy in Jakarta (flooding, killing, fire, bomb scare,
demonstrations, etc, you name it!) and asked them what the hell it
stands for (which I am not going to do).

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> I'm pretty sure FNU stands for FNU Not Unix. :-)
>
> I used to work on a navy base, and the I.D. badges that people were
issued were
> all printed with a first name, middle initial, and last name.  One of
my
> coworkers had a middle initial of NMI.  It wasn't until I met somebody
else with
> a middle initials of NMI that I realized NMI weren't the initials for
three
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2002\02\08@163318 by John Pfaff

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Why not "First Name Unspellable" or "First Name Unpronouncable"

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2002\02\08@164836 by Jinx

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> > > NMI weren't the initials for three middle names.  They
> > > were an acronym for No Middle Initial

I can't decide if that's a paradox

"You have no middle initials. And they are N.M.I."

or self-fulfilling

"You have no middle initials. And you have the middle
initials N.M.I. to prove it"

I can imagine Spock's eyebrow's taking turns to twitch
in an endless loop until his rubber ears fall off under the
strain

"That is not logical Captain. Wait, yes it is. Wait, no it
isn't. Yes, no, yes, no......."

Tilt

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2002\02\10@173817 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>My official name in the U.S. is indeed Rudy Rudy (yup, no kidding!
>It's the real thing.  With more than a dozen paper saying I am "Rudy
>Rudy", I better be!).  The detail of the story of how I ended up with
>this name is on my website: http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html

       Rudy², that WAS FUN! :oD Great read for a weekend ;o)))


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2002\02\11@002431 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>My official name in the U.S. is indeed Rudy Rudy (yup, no kidding!
>It's the real thing.  With more than a dozen paper saying I am "Rudy
>Rudy", I better be!).  The detail of the story of how I ended up with
>this name is on my website: http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html

       Rudy², that WAS FUN! :oD Great read for a weekend ;o)))


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2002\02\12@011912 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>My official name in the U.S. is indeed Rudy Rudy (yup, no kidding!
>It's the real thing.  With more than a dozen paper saying I am "Rudy
>Rudy", I better be!).  The detail of the story of how I ended up with
>this name is on my website: http://www.rudyrudy.com/hp/page/pinfo.html

       Rudy², that WAS FUN! :oD Great read for a weekend ;o)))


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