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2001\12\22@172550 by Jinx

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I was hoping to copy my vinyl collection to CD. Snag - can't
seem to create .wav files

The motherboard is an ASUS Cuple-VM + 800MHz Intel with
on-board stereo input. The sound comes out the speakers OK
but any capturing software merely records silence. So I'm
guessing that somewhere or other there's a firmware link not
established. I've looked in the manual and asked the supplier
("duh, I only sell them mate") to no avail

The board is set as an SB16 emulator in the BIOS

Don't know if this is connected, but Quake I is the only game or
application that is also silent.

Any s/w or driver suggestions ?

TIA

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2001\12\22@185318 by Martyn Cole

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In message <004e01c18b37$4bad5f40$a394a7cb@joe>, Jinx
<.....joecolquittKILLspamspam@spam@CLEAR.NET.NZ> writes
>I was hoping to copy my vinyl collection to CD. Snag - can't
>seem to create .wav files
>
>The motherboard is an ASUS Cuple-VM + 800MHz Intel with
>on-board stereo input. The sound comes out the speakers OK
>but any capturing software merely records silence. So I'm
>guessing that somewhere or other there's a firmware link not
>established. I've looked in the manual and asked the supplier
>("duh, I only sell them mate") to no avail
>
>The board is set as an SB16 emulator in the BIOS
>
>Don't know if this is connected, but Quake I is the only game or
>application that is also silent.
>
>Any s/w or driver suggestions ?
>
>TIA
>

Have you enabled the inputs in the audio mixer?

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2001\12\22@190155 by Jinx

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> Have you enabled the inputs in the audio mixer?

Ticked and enabled everything I can find. Volume and
balance controls work, just no response to REC eg no
movement of record level LED bars

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2001\12\22@191231 by andy n1yew

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try looprecorder under windows

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2001\12\22@200735 by Kathy Quinlan

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> > Have you enabled the inputs in the audio mixer?
>
> Ticked and enabled everything I can find. Volume and
> balance controls work, just no response to REC eg no
> movement of record level LED bars

Huggles to those over yonder,

have you checked for recording controls, as most of the SB mixers, allow you
to set a different layout, and use the controls differently for record (I
was caught by this on win 95)

Regards,

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2001\12\22@205633 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>I was hoping to copy my vinyl collection to CD. Snag - can't
>seem to create .wav files
>The motherboard is an ASUS Cuple-VM + 800MHz Intel with
>on-board stereo input. The sound comes out the speakers OK
>but any capturing software merely records silence. So I'm
>guessing that somewhere or other there's a firmware link not
>established. I've looked in the manual and asked the supplier
>("duh, I only sell them mate") to no avail
>The board is set as an SB16 emulator in the BIOS
>Don't know if this is connected, but Quake I is the only game or
>application that is also silent.
>Any s/w or driver suggestions ?

       Hmmm, Too offtopic for the list, but maybe other people are interested at all, so lets talk here ;o)

       This is more or less an easy task. It depends of the perfection of the work, I'll tell you two ways (which I use) to do it

       - Easy way:
       Install easy CD creator from Adaptec
       Start "Spin Doctor" (part of the package)
       Be sure spin doctor is reading from the line in port
       Play your disk, select noise cancelling, tell the spin doctor to do the rest
       - As failsafe as it can be. Believe me! ;o)))

       - Hard (but better) way:
       Instal whatever CD program you want
       install Sound Forge with the "vinyl noise reduction" plugin
       read the disc using the sound forge recorder
       spend lots of time processing (and learning to) the audio
       save as .WAV files
       record it using the CD program of your preference.

       Now, if you only want to know why you can hear the sound in your speakers, but nothing gets recorded, this is also simple: Check the audio input, in the program. EX: Sound recorder from windows - go to edit, audio properties (maybe the names are wrong, remember my windoze is in Portuguese) and choose in recording, the source - you should be using "line in" and not "microphone"

       Any questions, feel free to ask ;o)


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2001\12\22@231927 by Jinx

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> This is more or less an easy task. It depends of the perfection
> of the work, I'll tell you two ways (which I use) to do it

>        - Easy way:

>        - Hard (but better) way:

> Now, if you only want to know why you can hear the sound in your
> speakers, but nothing gets recorded, this is also simple: Check the
> audio input, in the program. EX: Sound recorder from windows -
> go to edit, audio properties (maybe the names are wrong

I've been contacted off-list by an ASUS supplier. As I suspected,
the problem was firmware, not the audio s/w or editing programs.
What should have been supplied with the m/b was a VIA driver CD.
This sets up the PCI bridges etc which is crucial for what I need to
do (the audio does not need that path to get to the speakers). I
managed to get to the place where I got the m/b from and they
cheerily handed over the CD that should have been in the box.
Mongrels. Anyway, all seems to be going now. I've got a shareware
program called GoldWave to try out, looks pretty good, comprehensive.
Thanks for suggestions. I can now get busy tranferring my vinyl (from
Kate Bush to Mahavishnu Orchestra) over to CD. Vinyl players in
cars never did catch on did they

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2001\12\22@231944 by Jinx

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> Huggles to those over yonder,

Huggles back

> have you checked for recording controls, as most of the
> SB mixers, allow you to set a different layout, and use the
> controls differently for record (I was caught by this on win 95)
>
> Kat.

As explained in the other mail, problem has been identified
as being in firmware. Now the basic Win98 recorder in Accessories
works, and so does any other suite I choose. Oh no, I might even
start looking around for MP3 players ;-((

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2001\12\22@233012 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>I've been contacted off-list by an ASUS supplier. As I suspected,
>the problem was firmware, not the audio s/w or editing programs.
>What should have been supplied with the m/b was a VIA driver CD.
>This sets up the PCI bridges etc which is crucial for what I need to
>do (the audio does not need that path to get to the speakers). I
>managed to get to the place where I got the m/b from and they
>cheerily handed over the CD that should have been in the box.
>Mongrels. Anyway, all seems to be going now. I've got a shareware
>program called GoldWave to try out, looks pretty good, comprehensive.
>Thanks for suggestions. I can now get busy tranferring my vinyl (from
>Kate Bush to Mahavishnu Orchestra) over to CD. Vinyl players in
>cars never did catch on did they

       EEEhhh, nice it got solved, But Kate Bush is better than Maha*.*, for sure.


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2001\12\22@233045 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>As explained in the other mail, problem has been identified
>as being in firmware. Now the basic Win98 recorder in Accessories
>works, and so does any other suite I choose. Oh no, I might even
>start looking around for MP3 players ;-((

       For-get the MP3 players and get (without FOR) a Sony Clié. It will be the best thing you did yourself in your life

       Alexandre, green of anger for had bought an Palm Vx and haven't bought an Clie 710 - that was about the same price.


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2001\12\23@021418 by Jinx

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> EEEhhh, nice it got solved, But Kate Bush is better
> than Maha*.*, for sure.

John McLaughlin is a "slightly" better guitarist than KB. Can't
beat KB for some extraordinarily beautiful melodies

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2001\12\24@030533 by ards, Justin P

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Had similar problems with another 800Mhz running millennium.  Could not
capture sound or recorded sound was very quiet and badly distorted sound
from line in and mic in. When using with video capturing software sound was
delayed by about 10 secs.  Really weird.

Got a external(still inside the cover) sound card for it and worked like a
dream.  Also fixed a few other problems they were having. Some suggested new
drivers for the board but that was difficult.

Justin
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2001\12\24@032650 by Jinx

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> Had similar problems with another 800Mhz running millennium.
> Could not capture sound or recorded sound was very quiet and
> badly distorted sound from line in and mic in. When using with
> video capturing software sound was delayed by about 10 secs.
> Really weird.

I get that sometimes with the video capture card - makes it very
difficult to get a clean start and finish when you have to predict
when the capturing will kick in, grrrrrr

> Got a external(still inside the cover) sound card for it and worked
> like a dream.  Also fixed a few other problems they were having.
> Some suggested new drivers for the board but that was difficult.

My problem turned out to be at buss level. Not covered in the manual
of course - one of those things you have to go pecking around for
until you find it. Hate that

Absolutely thrilled with Goldwave (shareware from http://www.goldwave.com)
sound editor. As soon as I can I'll register it (although it's functional
now with little restriction). For less than a meg big it's a great utility.
Transferred a fair few tracks from vinyl to CD already. Quality depends
on the vinyl, but so far more than happy. Happier than I would be with
cassette tape wrapping around capstans. I can also do a lot of sampling
and sound effects for my other audio work with the program too

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2001\12\28@055957 by Roman Black

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Jinx wrote:

> Absolutely thrilled with Goldwave (shareware from http://www.goldwave.com)
> sound editor. As soon as I can I'll register it (although it's functional
> now with little restriction). For less than a meg big it's a great utility.
> Transferred a fair few tracks from vinyl to CD already. Quality depends
> on the vinyl, but so far more than happy. Happier than I would be with
> cassette tape wrapping around capstans. I can also do a lot of sampling
> and sound effects for my other audio work with the program too


Hi, there is a nice looking vinyl recorder
software, that does intelligent click and pop
removal. I found it the other day with a simple
google search but don't have a bookmark sorry.
i think you should check it out if your vinyl
is precious.
:o)
-Roman

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2001\12\28@061228 by Jinx

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> Hi, there is a nice looking vinyl recorder
> software, that does intelligent click and pop
> removal. I found it the other day with a simple
> google search but don't have a bookmark sorry.
> i think you should check it out if your vinyl
> is precious.

Yeah, no harm in shopping around

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2001\12\28@063507 by Roman Black

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Jinx wrote:
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> > Hi, there is a nice looking vinyl recorder
> > software, that does intelligent click and pop
> > removal. I found it the other day with a simple
> > google search but don't have a bookmark sorry.
> > i think you should check it out if your vinyl
> > is precious.
>
> Yeah, no harm in shopping around


I didn't explain it well enough, this is SPECIALISED
software which has high tech algorythms to restore
vinyl, specifically to get your vinyl recorded sounding
like a CD. Nothing like Goldwave.
:o)
-Roman

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2001\12\28@071110 by Jinx

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> I didn't explain it well enough, this is SPECIALISED
> software which has high tech algorythms to restore
> vinyl, specifically to get your vinyl recorded sounding
> like a CD. Nothing like Goldwave.
> :o)
> -Roman

O, IC. Goldwave does have adjustable pop filters and
noise gate/reduction for hiss and hum, as well as a 7-
band graphic EQ and 30-band parametric EQ. For
anything stubborn and unwanted you can zoom in to
edit the waveform manually

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2001\12\28@073012 by Jinx

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> I didn't explain it well enough, this is SPECIALISED
> software which has high tech algorythms to restore
> vinyl, specifically to get your vinyl recorded sounding
> like a CD. Nothing like Goldwave.
> :o)
> -Roman

Don't know if the s/w you found does this, but a couple of
things you can do with Goldwave is increase the speed of
the playback and also lower the pitch. So you can have the
same clip faster but not sound like a chipmunk. This would
be handy for tailoring samples to be recorded by a PIC

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2001\12\29@062926 by Roman Black
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Jinx wrote:

> Don't know if the s/w you found does this, but a couple of
> things you can do with Goldwave is increase the speed of
> the playback and also lower the pitch. So you can have the
> same clip faster but not sound like a chipmunk. This would
> be handy for tailoring samples to be recorded by a PIC

Yep resampling is handy, I like "Acoustica" still
shareware although I think it is pricier than Goldwave.
Acoustica will re-sample at any rate, with some smart
interpolation and you can set it to any Hz value like
19001Hz or 19002Hz etc.
-Roman

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