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2002\11\25@052716 by Russell McMahon

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Maybe USA'ites have a better way of doing this but from down here this is
the best method I could find.

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2002\11\25@060909 by Andy Kunz

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You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
address given the phone number.

Andy

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2002\11\25@081938 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 06:07 AM 11/25/02 -0500, you wrote:
>You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
>address given the phone number.

Sometimes. ;-)  Not all phone numbers are in the databases, not by a long
shot.

I wonder how many more phone numbers they'd get if they dropped the archaic
geographic assignment of prefixes. Maybe they already have with the latest
new area codes that are popping up all over.

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2002\11\25@172353 by Peter L. Peres

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On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Andy Kunz wrote:

*>You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
*>address given the phone number.

Being able to do that is illegal in many countries.

Peter

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2002\11\25@182200 by Herbert Graf

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> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Andy Kunz wrote:
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> *>You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
> *>address given the phone number.
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> Being able to do that is illegal in many countries.

       Really? I know for certain it's not illegal in Canada, I find it to be a
wonderfully useful feature. TTYL

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2002\11\25@182957 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 06:21 PM 11/25/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Andy Kunz wrote:
> >
> > *>You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
> > *>address given the phone number.
> >
> > Being able to do that is illegal in many countries.
>
>         Really? I know for certain it's not illegal in Canada, I find it
> to be a
>wonderfully useful feature. TTYL

How about looking phone numbers up from addresses?

Great for sales people, they can look up all the phone numbers in a
block. I don't know if it's available on-line for free, but those
directories are in most cities in US & Canada in public libraries.

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2002\11\25@195703 by Bob Blick

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> *>You are correct.  We can do a "reverse DNS lookup" and get the street
> *>address given the phone number.
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> Being able to do that is illegal in many countries.

But the US is a <sarcasm>civilized</sarcasm> country where the free market
rules.

-Bob

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2002\11\25@210820 by Jim

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  "I wonder how many more phone numbers they'd get if
   they dropped the archaic geographic assignment of
   prefixes. Maybe they already have with the latest
   new area codes that are popping up all over."

According to:

http://docs.nanpa.com/cgi-bin/npa_reports/nanpa?function=list_npa_non_geo

there are only 13 "Non-geographic NPA's in service" as of 11/22/2002

456 Inbound International
500 Personal Communication Service
600 Canadian Services
700 Interexchange Carrier Services
710 US Government
800 Toll-Free
866 Toll-Free
877 Toll-Free
880 Paid Toll-Free Service
881 Paid Toll-Free Service
882 Paid Toll-Free Service
888 Toll-Free
900 Premium Services

- - -  - - -  - - -  - - -  - - -  - - -  - - -  - - -

There have been several "Number Portability" (one person - one
phone line regardless of physical location) deadlines that
have been repeatedly 'moved out' by the FCC at the request of
the 'carriers' ... one day, maybe, this will become a reality ...

RF Jim




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2002\11\25@215129 by Josh Koffman

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Does this strike anyone else as funny? :)

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Jim wrote:
> there are only 13 "Non-geographic NPA's in service" as of 11/22/2002
<snip>
> 880 Paid Toll-Free Service
> 881 Paid Toll-Free Service
> 882 Paid Toll-Free Service

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2002\11\25@221147 by Jim

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Ever used one of those services that provide
dial-in conference calling or long distance
service by dialing a 'special' number?

The fees paid by the end-user in these cases is
paid to a third party who is not the phone
company ... that third party is the one who
has the bulk-usage arrangement with the phone company
(for time, usage and trunks) and is the one who then
'antes up' to pay the actual 'phone company' with the
end user (the customer) paying "them who antes up" ...

Better it had been termed: "Pre-paid toll-free services".

The 'toll-free' part refers to fact that the phone company
doesn't bill the caller via the usual means ...

RF Jim

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2002\11\25@223709 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 08:04 PM 11/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
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So, the NPA/NXX *pair* (what we'd loosely call the AREA CODE and the
PREFIX) is completely geographic at the present time?

It gets a bit more abstract with cell phone numbers I guess.

>There have been several "Number Portability" (one person - one
>phone line regardless of physical location) deadlines that
>have been repeatedly 'moved out' by the FCC at the request of
>the 'carriers' ... one day, maybe, this will become a reality ...

It would be nice. It's great to be able to take calls in the
interior of China (near Tibet and Burma) on the same cell phone that
works in Toronto and Phoenix (better coverage than in Rural Arizona,
actually!).  Some day calls ANYWHERE will have no per-minute
charges, I hope.

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2002\11\26@011837 by Eric Bohlman

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11/25/02 10:19:50 PM, Josh Koffman <@spam@listsjoshKILLspamspam3MTMP.COM> wrote:

>Jim wrote:
>> there are only 13 "Non-geographic NPA's in service" as of 11/22/2002
><snip>
>> 880 Paid Toll-Free Service
>> 881 Paid Toll-Free Service
>> 882 Paid Toll-Free Service
>
>Does this strike anyone else as funny? :)

IIRC, that's to allow paid international calls to numbers that would be toll-free if called from
within the NANPA.  Remember that for large- or medium-volume customers, toll-free numbers usually
terminate on incoming-only trunks rather than being mapped to ordinary subscriber loops that have
ordinary numbers.  Therefore, someone calling from, say, the UK, can be out of luck if they want
to call a vendor that only publishes an 800/888/877/866 number.

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2002\11\26@043756 by Alan B. Pearce

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It would be nice. It's great to be able to take calls in the
interior of China (near Tibet and Burma) on the same cell phone that
works in Toronto and Phoenix (better coverage than in Rural Arizona,
actually!).

Hmm, be nice to get away from the phone sometimes, but I guess that is what
the OFF switch is for :)

>Some day calls ANYWHERE will have no
>per-minute charges, I hope.

You really expect the service providers to give up this cash cow ?? :))

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2002\11\26@075232 by Russell McMahon

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> It would be nice. It's great to be able to take calls in the
> interior of China (near Tibet and Burma) on the same cell phone that
> works in Toronto and Phoenix (better coverage than in Rural Arizona,
> actually!).

Available now.
Dysprosium* network - as long as you are happy to make calls outside :-)
(Also Inmarsat if you have really large muscles)


       RM

(* the owners think it's still Iridium but they obviously don't know their
atomic numbers).

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2002\11\26@212841 by Jim

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Globalstar - reports are that Globalstar
performs outdoes Iridium and also offers
a 'data' service (including Internet access).

RF Jim

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