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'[OT]: Technology Run Amuck??'
2000\12\13@004141 by Dan Michaels

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True story - newest GPS apps I have heard about recently:

1 - Cow Herding. Seems if you kick a cow's rump, and yell in
its ear, it will move ahead and "away" from the sound. So they
now have cowcollars with GPS tracking, a computer range
mapper, and stereo earphones. If the cow wanders, the computer
checks the GPS and yells in the appropriate ear to direct the
cow back to the proper range area. $30,000 per cow now, but mass
production will bring the prices down of course. [almost as
good as that guy from the UK who implanted the chip in his
arm so his wife could keep track of him].

BTW, any guesses as to what the cows like to listen to, in
between getting whacked and yelled at?

2 - Parking Space OneUpsManShip. They now have an easy way to
find an open space in a parking lot. A satellite in space snaps
a picture of the lot, and identifies open spaces. It then sends
info down to the car computer which then uses GPS plus the
traveling salesman algorithm to direct the car via the shortest
possible route to the open space. It also tracks any enemy
cars that may get to the space first, so it can then send the
good car to a 2nd priority space. [available by xmas, except
in NZ]. Mark II will eventually download a complete visual
map of the parking lot to the onboard computer.

Can anyone top 1 or 2? [would anyone dare to? NZ - you guys
still awake?]

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2000\12\13@005711 by Roman Black

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Dan Michaels wrote:
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Ha ha! Now if the GPS and parking satellites have some sort
of conflict, you might get to your parking space only to
find it full of cows!! ;o)
-Roman

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2000\12\13@010505 by Dale Botkin

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On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Dan Michaels wrote:

> 1 - Cow Herding.
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> 2 - Parking Space OneUpsManShip.
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> Can anyone top 1 or 2? [would anyone dare to? NZ - you guys
> still awake?]

Combination of 1 & 2 - map a flock of sheep?  Could be useful as a date
finder for kiwis...

Dale
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2000\12\13@010521 by Tony Nixon

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Roman Black wrote:
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> Dan Michaels wrote:
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> > True story - newest GPS apps I have heard about recently:
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> > 1 - Cow Herding. Seems if you kick a cow's rump, and yell in
> > its ear, it will move ahead and "away" from the sound. So they


True story too!

I actually got asked to do something like this for a cattle farmer
relative of mine.

Fences are very expensive and so is mustering to rotate feed paddocks,
hence the need for a cheaper no fuss way.

I actually thought of GPS, but didn't know of the 'ear' thing. I must
mention it next time I go a visitin'.

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2000\12\13@013514 by Dan Michaels

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Roman wrote:

>Ha ha! Now if the GPS and parking satellites have some sort
>of conflict, you might get to your parking space only to
>find it full of cows!! ;o)

Or maybe a good way to keep the space open till you can
drive over to it.

[hmmm, Jinx could probably use this idea to herd his ducks].

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2000\12\13@013525 by Dan Michaels

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Tony wrote:
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>Fences are very expensive and so is mustering to rotate feed paddocks,
>hence the need for a cheaper no fuss way.
>

Exactly why it was invented in the first place - some guy here
in Colorado cattle country did it and apparently has a patent.
Being a long time cow whacker [called cow "punchers" herearoundabouts],
he knew how to herd a cow. Course, $30,000/cow is a little steep ....

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2000\12\13@082933 by Alan B. Pearce

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>BTW, any guesses as to what the cows like to listen to, in
>between getting whacked and yelled at?

There have been various stories at times about what music cows like to listen
to. I believe some found that classical music playing on a radio in the milking
shed did increase the milk output, but I am also sure that someone else claimed
country music did the same.

Interestingly there was a recent study in a school in the UK where they found
that classical music playing in the background in the classroom helped students
to concentrate on the lesson.

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2000\12\13@083354 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 01:28 PM 12/13/00 -0000, you wrote:
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>Interestingly there was a recent study in a school in the UK where they found
>that classical music playing in the background in the classroom helped
students
>to concentrate on the lesson.

THere is a mini-industry built up around this concept, wherin certain baroque
chamber music (IIRC) is supposed to greatly enhance learning, particularly
of foreign languages. ISTR that the Russians came up with the idea.

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2000\12\13@092251 by dre Domingos F. Souza

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>Interestingly there was a recent study in a school in the UK where they found
>that classical music playing in the background in the classroom helped students
>to concentrate on the lesson.

       I think ANY instrumental music is a great helper on this. Since you don't need to "understand" or pay attention on words, the sound of music keeps your brain working in a good way. I use to listen to progressive rock while working, and its not only a pleasure, but the work seems to be easier.


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2000\12\13@095252 by Alan B. Pearce

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>        I think ANY instrumental music is a great helper on this. Since you
don't need >to "understand" or pay attention on words, the sound of music keeps
your brain working >in a good way. I use to listen to progressive rock while
working, and its not only a >pleasure, but the work seems to be easier.

I hate it when the background noise rises to mask the music, but you can still
hear the "beat" if it can be called that from a bass guitar or drum. This I find
absolutely distracting, and I got the music turned off in the workshop I was in
because of this. For the music to be effective it has to be at a level that
enables it to be heard above the background work noise without being intrusive
in itself.

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2000\12\13@104504 by dre Domingos F. Souza

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>I hate it when the background noise rises to mask the music, but you can still
>hear the "beat" if it can be called that from a bass guitar or drum. This I find
>absolutely distracting, and I got the music turned off in the workshop I was in
>because of this. For the music to be effective it has to be at a level that
>enables it to be heard above the background work noise without being intrusive
>in itself.

       So, do it like me: Use headphones :o)


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2000\12\13@104930 by Alan B. Pearce

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>        So, do it like me: Use headphones :o)

This was in a computer repair workshop, and headphones were not practical.
Besides which the MD was of a type who was very good at accounting and had the
letters after his name for it, but when it came to dealing with people had the
lawsuits to prove he couldn't do it, so I got out.

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2000\12\13@113509 by David Kott

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> >        I think ANY instrumental music is a great helper on this. Since
you
> don't need to "understand" or pay attention on words, the sound of music
keeps
> your brain working in a good way. I use to listen to progressive rock
while
> working, and its not only a pleasure, but the work seems to be easier.
>
> I hate it when the background noise rises to mask the music, but you can
still
> hear the "beat" if it can be called that from a bass guitar or drum. This
I find
> absolutely distracting, and I got the music turned off in the workshop I
was in
> because of this. For the music to be effective it has to be at a level
that
> enables it to be heard above the background work noise without being
intrusive
> in itself.

Yah.. I can't stand *any* noise when I am programming.  I find it very
distracting.  I have some decent foam earplugs that I keep at my desk...
'specially when I am working on buffering or OBO error code.

-d

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2000\12\13@143118 by Lance Allen
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Dale Botkin wrote:

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> Combination of 1 & 2 - map a flock of sheep?  Could be useful as a date
> finder for kiwis...
>
> Dale
> <ducks to avoid objects hurled by irate new Zealanders!!>

Do you think we would stoop to such petty activity as revenge......

(Makes note to anonymously inform NZ customs Dale Botkin is a suspected
drug smuggler, with evidence concealed deep in body cavities).

Dale ... you must visit us friendly folk down here....


Lance

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2000\12\13@164613 by Jinx

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> Can anyone top 1 or 2? [would anyone dare to? NZ - you guys
> still awake?]

This is pretty nifty

http://www.krusenz.com/

("Damn, I shoulda thoughta that")

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2000\12\14@182722 by kayode.ayandokun

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Spehro Pefhany <EraseMEspeffspam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTINTERLOG.COM> wrote:
> At 01:28 PM 12/13/00 -0000, you wrote:
> >
> >Interestingly there was a recent study in a school in the UK where they found
> >that classical music playing in the background in the classroom helped
> students
> >to concentrate on the lesson.
>
> THere is a mini-industry built up around this concept, wherin certain baroque
> chamber music (IIRC) is supposed to greatly enhance learning, particularly
> of foreign languages. ISTR that the Russians came up with the idea.

This takes me back.  I remember when I was about 17 and studying for my
A levels I came across a book called "How to be a super brain" (LOL).
Basically the idea is that baroque composers like Telleman wrote music
which can set the brain into a mode where information will be much more
easily learnt and retained.  I was young enough to try anything so
having read this I trotted off to my local music library and borrowed
the recommended music.  Not sure it did me any good.  Certainly didn't
turn me into a super brain!

If anyone feels they need a super brain, you can download this sort of
music, specially formatted and in mp3, from the personal development
section of http://www.rioport.com

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2000\12\15@071901 by Russell McMahon

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How come you go stealing my ideas already ??? :-)
The (obvious) idea of using GPS for a similar purposes spring immediately to
mind on reading the tourist info idea.
Great minds, obviously, think alike.

R



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2000\12\15@215341 by Dan Michaels

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Jinxalinx wrote:

>Once upon a time the way to make a new product was put a clock or
>a calculator in it. Now it's a GPS module
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If it's that easy, you must be rich, what ?????????

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2000\12\18@151821 by Mike Mansheim

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seems like, for $30,000, one could replace many times a cow
that wanders off...

>>
True story - newest GPS apps I have heard about recently:

1 - Cow Herding. Seems if you kick a cow's rump, and yell in
its ear, it will move ahead and "away" from the sound. So they
now have cowcollars with GPS tracking, a computer range
mapper, and stereo earphones. If the cow wanders, the computer
checks the GPS and yells in the appropriate ear to direct the
cow back to the proper range area. $30,000 per cow now, but mass
production will bring the prices down of course
<<

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2000\12\18@152448 by M. Adam Davis

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It's not the cows they're trying to replace, it's the people.  Assuming
they get the price down to $100 or less each, make them reuseable, then
they can essentially have one hand for many more cows than normal.

-Adam

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2000\12\18@153309 by Douglas Wood

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I had a friend that worked at a company about 6 years ago who was using GPS
units to track the progress of golf carts on golf courses. If a cart didn't
seem to be moving much, the course manager could gently remind the golders
to speed it up a bit. In golf, time is money (I guess).

Douglas Wood
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2000\12\18@162817 by Don Hyde

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I'm used to cows being inside fences.  $100 doesn't buy much fence, and you
have to be constantly inspecting and repairing it.

I don't think many cow collars would sell for $100, but with GPS receivers
likely going into all new cellphones, the prices could drop below $50 in a
year or so.  Might not seem so nutty if it's cheap and it works.

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2000\12\18@170734 by Kevin Fisk

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It gets better, I worked on a system that not only tells you to move play
along, but also asks if you'd like a beer and chips ready for you after 9
and 18! As if that weren't enough, they also offer advertising while your
not checking out distance to the pin. Whatever it takes for more revenue
streams.

Incidentally, I learned courses could justify this added expense because
they estimated the use of these devices would allow 2-4 extra four-somes per
day.

Cheers,

Kevin

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2000\12\19@131137 by Dan Michaels

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Until the cows learn what the collars are for, and bash them
on the rocks. Cows are cool, but they ARE dumb - so if you put
some sequins on the collars, they'll go around showing them
off to their friends.


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