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'[OT]: Sydney Engineering Heart Attack'
2000\09\19@133507 by M. Adam Davis

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I had to laugh.  I'm sure the gas valve wasn't opened until she had the torch
against the front of it, and then the gas was probably valved in sections so the
back wasn't going all the time it took for the flame to reach it.

I've worked behind the scenes before and it is interesting to wonder how many
people think that this is what's supposed to happen, and how many know that
something is wrong.  In this case, the dramatic pause was stretched a bit too
far.  I know one person who didn't realize the torch was going to move up the
track until it did - they assumed all it did was go up 8 ft (3 meters for you
aussies ;-) and were surprised when it started bouncing its way up the track.
Then wondering if the various locks and transfers were actually going to work
when the torch was lifted up on the tower.  Anyone want to tell me how they
transferred the gas lines?  Perhaps they had tanks in the torch, and only after
the crowd was gone did they climb up there and hook a more semi-permanent line
in?

When the olympics are over, are they going to sumberge it back into the water to
put it out?  Or just launch it like a flying discus (saucer for you UFO types)?
And if thye do launch it, where to?  I'm not familiar with the territory.  Are
we anywhere close to the opera house?  How about a nearby ocean, or even large
body of water?  Could we send it flying with any accuracy into the middle of a
nearby olympic venue?  If we spun it before hand would the centripital forces
cause the flame to flatten out into a disc?

And if they do plan on taking it down the track again, what do you want to bet
the locks fail, and the disc just slides down the tracks and into the middle of
the field, still aflame...?

-Adam

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2000\09\19@140414 by Dan Michaels

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Adam Davis wrote:
>I had to laugh.  I'm sure the gas valve wasn't opened until she had the torch
>against the front of it, and then the gas was probably valved in sections
so the
>back wasn't going all the time it took for the flame to reach it.
>

I am sure she was reasoning all this out, too - as she prayed for dear
life.
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 Anyone want to tell me how they
>transferred the gas lines?  Perhaps they had tanks in the torch, and only after
>the crowd was gone did they climb up there and hook a more semi-permanent line
>in?
>

I assume they had flexible gas lines snaking down the track from the
top that they reeled in as they sent the torch on up.

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2000\09\19@141035 by Severson, Rob

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>   Anyone want to tell me how they
> >transferred the gas lines?  Perhaps they had tanks in the
> torch, and only after
> >the crowd was gone did they climb up there and hook a more
> semi-permanent line
> >in?
> >
>
> I assume they had flexible gas lines snaking down the track from the
> top that they reeled in as they sent the torch on up.

I'd bet a 20lb propane tank in the ring could sustain the flame for quite a
while. I'll kick my gas grill into my neighbor's duck pond and let you know
the results. Perhaps I'll get my wife to do the honors. Here's a match.

(Now this is getting silly..)

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2000\09\19@193445 by Mike Cornelius

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>Anyone want to tell me how they
>transferred the gas lines?  Perhaps they had tanks in the torch, and only
after
>the crowd was gone did they climb up there and hook a more semi-permanent
line
>in?

According to the local newspaper there were tanks in the "Flying saucer"
bit. The "Flying Saucer" was used to light the real flame which actually
comes from a seperate burner on the Stalk/Pole bit.

Additionally they say the initial delay was caused by a limit switch which
failed to engage, they gave an explaination for the second delay but I can't
remember what it was now..


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2000\09\19@214104 by Ray Gardiner

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> Anyone want to tell me how they
>>transferred the gas lines?  Perhaps they had tanks in the torch, and only after
>>the crowd was gone did they climb up there and hook a more semi-permanent line
>>in?
>>
>
>I assume they had flexible gas lines snaking down the track from the
>top that they reeled in as they sent the torch on up.
>

I think they had tanks in the disk, that say would burn for
a few hours.  Then the main burners would be in the fixed spike. that
supports the disk. The main flame is much bigger and

I notice that the flame was turned down low until the disk lifted above
Kathy Freemans head. I wonder who was the bunny to test that part of the
program..

The papers here said it was a $0.10 switch that failed to indicate the
disk had locked in place. The engineeing company corrected that, and
said it was a $140.00 microswitch that failed. Once they established
that it had actually locked in place, they then went to manual override
to drive the disk up the ramp.


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2000\09\20@034004 by Jinx

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> The papers here said it was a $0.10 switch that failed to indicate the
> disk had locked in place. The engineering company corrected that,
> and said it was a $140.00 microswitch that failed

$140.00 ? Must've been a good one  <G>

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2000\09\20@052648 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jinx [SMTP:joecolquittspamKILLspamCLEAR.NET.NZ]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 3:52 AM
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> Subject:      Re: [OT]: Sydney Engineering Heart Attack
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> > The papers here said it was a $0.10 switch that failed to indicate the
> > disk had locked in place. The engineering company corrected that,
> > and said it was a $140.00 microswitch that failed
>
> $140.00 ? Must've been a good one  <G>
>
>
Obviously not good enough :o)

Mike

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2000\09\20@072210 by Jinx

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> > > and said it was a $140.00 microswitch that failed
> >
> > $140.00 ? Must've been a good one  <G>
> >
> >
> Obviously not good enough :o)
>
> Mike

"Jeez mate, what are we gonna say ? We shouldn'ta pinched that
door switch off the canteen fridge y'know mate"
"OK mate, how about we blame it on a cheapo switch"
"Cracker mate. Oh wait, we can't say that. If they find out it's a
10c switch they'll know we blew the rest on the tap-dancers mate"
"Cripes mate, yer not wrong there. Let's tellem we used that
big budget they gave us to buy the most expensive switch in
the world but we musta gotta crook foreign one mate"
"Spot on mate, you'll do. Pass us another tinnie mate"
"Righto mate. Hey, the fridge light don't come on no more"
"Aw, mate :-("
"Mate :-("

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2000\09\20@121531 by Dan Michaels

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>>> The papers here said it was a $0.10 switch that failed to indicate the
>>> disk had locked in place. The engineering company corrected that,
>>> and said it was a $140.00 microswitch that failed
>>
>>$140.00 ? Must've been a good one  <G>
>>
>
>Obviously not good enough :o)
>

In america, the dept of defense uses $0.10 switches all the time
that they buy for $140 from "qualified" vendors.

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2000\09\20@122351 by M. Adam Davis

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And 50% of that fee goes to the liability insurance the 'qualified' vendor
purchases for each part sold to the DoD...

-Adam

Dan Michaels wrote:
> In america, the dept of defense uses $0.10 switches all the time
> that they buy for $140 from "qualified" vendors.

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2000\09\20@173514 by Tony Nixon

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Jinx wrote:

> "Jeez mate, what are we gonna say ? We shouldn'ta pinched that
> door switch off the canteen fridge y'know mate"
> "OK mate, how about we blame it on a cheapo switch"
> "Cracker mate. Oh wait, we can't say that. If they find out it's a
> 10c switch they'll know we blew the rest on the tap-dancers mate"
> "Cripes mate, yer not wrong there. Let's tellem we used that
> big budget they gave us to buy the most expensive switch in
> the world but we musta gotta crook foreign one mate"
> "Spot on mate, you'll do. Pass us another tinnie mate"
> "Righto mate. Hey, the fridge light don't come on no more"
> "Aw, mate :-("
> "Mate :-("

Are we talking Ozzie here or Greek ;-)

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2000\09\20@191202 by Jinx

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> Are we talking Ozzie here or Greek ;-)
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> Best regards
>
> Tony

Dinkum Strine mate, dinkum Strine.

And you know if you've watched John Clark's The Games as a
doco, and not a comedy, where the switch probably came from

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2000\09\21@044229 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Are we talking Ozzie here or Greek ;-)

It was definitely Aussie speak with a Kiwi accent.

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