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'[OT]: Sine table'
2000\08\21@114805 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Ahh, so. "Deterministic timing" is whatever the compiler **gives** you,
>whether it gives 10 cycles to code a loop, or 25 - whether a C instruction
>gets coded into 1 cycle or 8. Slowly it's coming across.

You are slowly getting it, the compiler determines what you get, thats why it is
deterministic ;-? (very tongue in cheek) and we are probably getting rather OT
before James has a go.

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2000\08\21@120927 by Dan Michaels

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Andy wrote:
>>Ahh, so. "Deterministic timing" is whatever the compiler **gives** you,
>>whether it gives 10 cycles to code a loop, or 25 - whether a C instruction
>>gets coded into 1 cycle or 8. Slowly it's coming across.
>
>You are slowly getting it, the compiler determines what you get, thats why
it is
>deterministic ;-? (very tongue in cheek) and we are probably getting rather OT
>before James has a go.
>

Maybe there should just be a law against monday mornings.

And this is not OT - this is gut-level programming philosophy.
If you don't care about the #cycles, PIC has no advantage over
using other microcontrollers, like 6805/8051.

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2000\08\21@123414 by Andy Howard

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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:03 PM
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> At the risk of starting a flame war...
>
> Real (wo)men code in assembly (or if they are extra tough, binary) :-)

Hehe, in the DOS days the cry was "Real programmers type COPY CON >>
PROGRAM.EXE"

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2000\08\21@125516 by Dale Botkin

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On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Dan Michaels wrote:

> And this is not OT - this is gut-level programming philosophy.
> If you don't care about the #cycles, PIC has no advantage over
> using other microcontrollers, like 6805/8051.

I have to respectfully disagree on this point.  The PIC has many
advantages over a lot of other microcontrollers.  I *don't* particularly
care about the number of cycles in the vast majority of cases, but I still
use PICs exclusively now because of a combination of:

High functional integration.  I recently designed a display system that
multiplexes a large number of LEDs *and* provides an analog brightness
control, all while managing a serial data stream.  One chip, one xtal.  No
external logic.

Low cost, high availability - I have no trouble locating nearly any PIC
variant I need at under US$10.  There3 are 805x versions with good
integration, but they're either hard to find, hard to buy in small
quantities, or both.

Tool availability - I bought a C compiler for $100 and a programmer for
$69, and could have done either one cheaper.  I can work in DOS, Win95/8,
NT, or Linux.  Other than C, every bit of software I require is free.

Scalability - I can write code for a 12C508 and re-use this same code on
an 'F877 if I need to.  There is a range of processors extending from
bare-minimum, dirt-cheap 8-pin to some pretty large processors.  The
instruction set is the same, or so close as to make code migration
trivial.

I used to play with 8748 and 8051 MPUs a lot.  I bought a PIC programmer
and 16C711/JW, which sat for two years while I tried to get around to
doing something with them.  Since I started learning how to use the PIC,
I've never once looked back and said, "Gee, this would be a good place to
use an 8052 instead".  The PIC just has too many other advantages.

Dale
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2000\08\21@130141 by Andrew Kunz

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20mA-25mA source/sink on a pin doesn't hurt either!

Andy

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2000\08\21@194751 by Bob Ammerman

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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:51 AM
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Been there: I had an embedded DOS system with no removable media but it did
have a CON. I had to extract the  contents of a binary file.

Wrote machine language routine to send bytes to serial port. Used only
instructions that could be expressed as printable ascii.

Entered with "COPY CON PROGRAM.EXE"

Worked like a charm.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(contract development of high performance, high function, low-level
software)






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