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2002\08\25@054123 by Russell McMahon

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For those of you sick of responding to the drivel about NASA having faked
moon landings this is just the site to send conspiracy theorists to. It
confirms all their suspicions :-)

       http://brainsluice.tripod.com/moonlanding.html





Thanks to Glenn for this super site

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2002\08\25@133449 by Jim

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Has anybody encounterd articles that detailed the
world-wide communications network which was employed
by NASA to enable i to communicate with the space
missions?

Or met someone who worked on or developed those systems?

I managed to convert a skeptic a year or so back during an
online discussion where it turned out that a gentleman
who had developed parts of the system while he was at
Motorola was present and filled in some details in
answer to the skeptic's question.

There is also this aspect -perhaps someone has input
on this as well- would not the Soviets at that time
have not pronounced this to be a fraud should it have
been a fraud?

I mean, they could easily have received the telemetry
and voice comms as easily as NASA (physics knows no
political bounds therefore the radio signals would have
been as available to them as *anyone* else given the
proper receiving appraratus!). Anyone remember the
infamous "Russion Fishing Trawlers" and their prescence
around the world?


The British Telecom Connection

I also recalled reading an account here involving "The
Post London Office Tower" (The BT Tower) and NASA:

http://www.light-straw.co.uk/ate/post_office_tower/t70.html

Brief excerpt:

Apollo 13

On 13th April 1970 the Apollo 13 service module (SM) Odyssey was crippled by
an explosion from an oxygen tank, causing the mission to be aborted. It took
all of NASA's ingenuity to return the crew safely to Earth.

A Technical Officer who worked in the Tower remembers...

"When the Apollo 13 mission was on we had a request from the US Embassy to
turn off transmitters within certain frequencies (I can't remember whether
it was in the 4 or 6 gig band) because the signal from the ship was so weak
terrestrial stations were swamping the Apollo signals especially when it was
near the horizon. This happened all over the world, that was the first
indication of how dire things really were."

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Tower index:
http://www.light-straw.co.uk/ate/post_office_tower/index.html#Main

RF Jim


   "Our ability to manufacture fraud has exceeded
    our  ability to detect it."

    - Al Pacino as Viktor Taransky in the movie 'Simone'

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2002\08\25@165720 by Russell McMahon

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> Or met someone who worked on or developed those systems?
>
> I managed to convert a skeptic a year or so back during an
> online discussion where it turned out that a gentleman
> who had developed parts of the system while he was at
> Motorola was present and filled in some details in
> answer to the skeptic's question.

I find the corner reflectors sitting comfortably on the Moon, and stillable
to return laser signals to earth from a suitably equipped installation, to
be one of the most convincing arguments. It takes special equipment to do
this BUT the special equipment can be obtained by anyone with suitable money
and desire. Unless anyone who supplies such equipment or operates a large
telescope is still in league with the conspirators the argument seems fairly
well destroyed by this one example.

Everything you are ever likely to want to know about the actual Apollo
missions

       http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html


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Indeed. As a counter example, the Jodrell Bank Radio Telescope gave the
world the first pictures from the 1st successful camera equipped Russian
Moon Lander. The signals were sent "in clear" (those were the days) and by
simply looking at the received signal they were able to deduce the line
syncs and rebuild the pictures. They were showing them to the world before
the Russians had announced the landing was a success.



       Russell McMahon

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2002\08\26@094343 by Chris Loiacono

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I just thought I'd start a little more trouble.
I WAS in a Grumman Aerospace plant in Bethpage, NY in 1969/70 that was
set-up as a movie studio. It contained the original full scale mock-up of
the L.E.M. (Lunar Excursion Module as it was then called) and some other
misc. gear and equipment spread out on a bed of very fine gray gravel and
rock "imported" from some western desert. (I managed to get away with a
piece of 'moon rock', which has long since been lost - my proof that the
place really existed.
There were two large TV cameras of the size and type that were used for
broadcast television there. The entire set-up covered somewhere between 50 &
100,000 sq. ft. of floor.
When I questioned it's purpose, I was told it was used for the "simulations"
that were broadcast during blackout periods.

I would really like to know how they simulated the astronaut's
weightlessness!!!
yuk yuk....
Chris

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2002\08\29@055958 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Indeed. As a counter example, the Jodrell Bank Radio Telescope gave the
>world the first pictures from the 1st successful camera equipped Russian
>Moon Lander. The signals were sent "in clear" (those were the days) and by
>simply looking at the received signal they were able to deduce the line
>syncs and rebuild the pictures. They were showing them to the world before
>the Russians had announced the landing was a success.

IIRC the Russians were put out, not just because Joddrel Bank had managed to
receive the pictures, and publish them, but they were higher quality than
the Russians had themselves.

It seems there really is something in having a bigger radio telescope than
them :)

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