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2000\09\22@100656 by Samuel Winchenbach

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I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group calendaring for instance) that would be nice to try out. We would have to be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely, however, to make this work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like Hummingbird for Solaris) that would make this possible?

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2000\09\22@115410 by Simon Nield

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Presumably by this you mean you want to control an xwindows application running on a Linux box from
another machine ?
xwindows was designed to allow this from the start (unlike MS windows) and does it rather well.
If you want to control the app from another *nix machine that has xwindows then all you need to do
is login to the the remote host and let it know where to display stuff by setting the display
variable.
If you want to control the app from a MS windows machine then you could probably do worse than
ReflectionsX from WRQ... it works fine for me.

My apologies if I have completely misunderstood your question :)

Regards,
Simon





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I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group calendaring for instance)
that would be nice to try out. We would have to be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely,
however, to make this work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like Hummingbird
for Solaris) that would make this possible?

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2000\09\22@120155 by Dale Botkin

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I've used X-Win Pro, MX (a freebie I found somewhere) and I think
Hummingbird as an X server for Linux apps (you may not know, but for X the
"client" and "server" designations seem bass-ackwards).  X servers are
generic as far as I know, and anything that works with Solaris should work
with Linux as well.

Dale

On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Simon Nield wrote:

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2000\09\22@122025 by Alan B. Pearce

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>(you may not know, but for X the "client" and
>"server" designations seem bass-ackwards)

This confused me for a while as well. However the way to think about it is the display program that is showing the window is the server, and the application program is the client because it is "subservient" to the server because the server started it up, and it requires the server to display its output.

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2000\09\22@122500 by Alan B. Pearce

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I came across this X-Win site some time back, but have not tried the software. If the claims are met, it would seem a reasonable package.
http://www.microimages.com/freestuf/mix/

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2000\09\22@130032 by M. Adam Davis

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VNC is a package that is free which allows you to view and interact with the
desktop of any x-windows computer, as well as windows.

I've used it and it works very well.

Go to
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc

-Adam

Samuel Winchenbach wrote:
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> I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group calendaring for instance) that would be nice to try out. We would have to be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely, however, to make this work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like Hummingbird for Solaris) that would make this possible?
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2000\09\22@205723 by Mike Werner

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Samuel Winchenbach wrote:
> I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group
> calendaring for instance) that would be nice to try out. We would have to
> be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely, however, to make this
> work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like
> Hummingbird for Solaris) that would make this possible?

ssh allows X progs to be run across a network quite easily - runs via an
encrypted channel too.  I use it fairly often here, simply because of how
easily it makes things happen.
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2000\09\22@222120 by Bob Ammerman

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The 'service' an x-server provides is that of display-io for x-clients.

This follows the same pattern as the 'service' a sql-server provides is that
of sql-io for sql-clients.

Nothing backwards about it! :-)


Bob Ammerman
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2000\09\23@095006 by Dale Botkin

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On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Mike Werner wrote:

> Samuel Winchenbach wrote:
> > I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group
> > calendaring for instance) that would be nice to try out. We would have to
> > be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely, however, to make this
> > work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like
> > Hummingbird for Solaris) that would make this possible?
>
> ssh allows X progs to be run across a network quite easily - runs via an
> encrypted channel too.  I use it fairly often here, simply because of how
> easily it makes things happen.

But you still need an X server, which I think is what he's looking for...

Dale
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2000\09\23@144948 by Mike Werner

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Dale Botkin wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Mike Werner wrote:
> > > Samuel Winchenbach wrote:
> > > I have been looking lately at a few interesting Linux applications (group
> > > calendaring for instance) that would be nice to try out. We would have to
> > > be able to run Linux GUI applications remotely, however, to make this
> > > work. Are you aware of any remote client packages for Linux (like
> > > Hummingbird for Solaris) that would make this possible?
> >
> > ssh allows X progs to be run across a network quite easily - runs via an
> > encrypted channel too.  I use it fairly often here, simply because of how
> > easily it makes things happen.
> > But you still need an X server, which I think is what he's looking for...

I don't know.  He doesn't say what the remote platform is.  If a platform
that X isn't already on, then yes he would.  But if the remote platform is
one where X already runs - like another Linux box - then I guess he probably
already has one.  Here's an idea ...

Hey Samuel - what OS is running on each end of this?  As in, is it from
Linux box to Linux box?  Or is it from Linux box to Windows box?
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2000\09\24@054628 by Kevin Maciunas

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..to avoid a lot of discussion, you can get remote Xwindows stuff onto a
Windoze PC using a variety of means, but VNC might be the answer:
http://www.uk.research.att.com/

Note that this also works the other way around, so people like me can
work in comfort.

Note also that this won't cost you money, just a wee bit of time.

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2000\09\24@123339 by Peter L. Peres

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You have two options: Run an X11 server on the clients (the machines that
connect), or run an X11 server with remote display (vnc) on M$ stations.
For Unix stations use Unix native remote displays in X11 (on Unix X11 the
SERVER runs on the CLIENT i.e. workstation, and the APPLICATION somewhere
else or on the same machine). Note that Linux uses magic cookie type
security on X11 by default and most free X11 servers for M$ do not support
this.

Somewhere among the Linux X11 docs there exists a remote-display howto.

VNC has none of these problems as it runs the server on the Linux machine
and remotely displays on the M$ client using a M$ application (which also
works as a plugin under Netscape !). VNC is more network and system
intensive than the X11 protocol.

hope this helps,

Peter

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