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'[OT]: Recommendations for programmer and compiler'
2001\01\11@232445 by Ken Robertson

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Hello,

I am pretty new to PIC programming and I'm currently looking at various
programmers and compilers.  I know I'm going to be using the 16F877, and the
key things I'll be using it with is RS-232 and a Ethernet controller (either
Crystal or SMSC's).

I'm thinking of getting the EPIC programmer with the 40-pin adapter for the
16F877.  Does the adapter only support DIP though?

Also, I'm leaning towards the CCS C compiler.  I can read asm, but dread
writing it.  And I'm not really used to Basic either, so I'm most
comfortable with the C syntax, since I already know it thoroughly.

Anyone have any opinions on these, or suggestions?  I haven't heard too much
about the CCS compiler, so that it what I am most unsure about.  I am mainly
asking to make sure that everything is compatible and I'm not about to blow
all this money on something that won't work.

Thanks in advance,
Ken

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2001\01\12@094602 by Bob Ammerman

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I would strongly consider getting the ICD for development programming.

You just need a 6-pin telco jack on your target board (or handwire a short
piece of satin ending in a 6-pin plug). This gives you the ability to
program the chip, and to debug the code.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(contract development of high performance, high function, low-level
software)

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2001\01\12@110705 by Dale Botkin

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Ken Robertson wrote:

> I am pretty new to PIC programming and I'm currently looking at various
> programmers and compilers.  I know I'm going to be using the 16F877, and the
> key things I'll be using it with is RS-232 and a Ethernet controller (either
> Crystal or SMSC's).
>
> I'm thinking of getting the EPIC programmer with the 40-pin adapter for the
> 16F877.  Does the adapter only support DIP though?

I use the EPIC Plus, works great.  I made my own 40-pin adapter with a ZIF
socket, cable and a bit of perf board.  You can make adapters for whatever
package you need as long as you can find a suitable socket.

> Also, I'm leaning towards the CCS C compiler.  I can read asm, but dread
> writing it.  And I'm not really used to Basic either, so I'm most
> comfortable with the C syntax, since I already know it thoroughly.
>
> Anyone have any opinions on these, or suggestions?  I haven't heard too much
> about the CCS compiler, so that it what I am most unsure about.  I am mainly
> asking to make sure that everything is compatible and I'm not about to blow
> all this money on something that won't work.

I also use CCS C (PCM).  No complaints here, other than it would be nice
if they allowed a longer perid of free downloads.  CCS has a lot of built
in functions and seems to generate pretty good code.  I haven't tried the
Hitech compiler; I hear it's good, but the free version only allows 1K
progra size and the full version is something like $800, so I don't use
it.

Dale
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