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2001\05\19@062420 by Roman Black

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This is very OT, but i've been thinking.
I saw a acronym here on the piclist the other day,
I think it was;
BTAICBW     - But Then Again I Could Be Wrong...

Now I had never seen this acronym before but from the
context it was used in, and some magical human brain
processing, it only took me a few seconds to understand
what BTAICBW was...

This is some form of evolution, both of the English
language and of the human brain. First we had spoken
words. Then the progression to written words. Then
written words are too clumsy for some concepts...
Like simple common concepts, like AFAIK, BTW, ASAP,
etc. (ETC??) This is great, only need a few letters
to describe a whole concept!

Then it hit me! These are symbols, one symbol = one
concept. We only use a string of letters because we
are typing on a lettered keyboard.

So what is the next stage of this evolution of words
into symbols? Actual symbols? Pictographs?? Wow...
Suddenly it looks like all this technology, internet,
etc is evolving us into some type of written language
system that the Chinese were using 2000 years ago and
the Egyptians 2000 years before that. Full circle.
Yep, it is going FC. (I just made that one up)

So does anyone know the Chinese symbol for WTF??
Just Saturday night rambling, sorry! ;o)
-Roman

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2001\05\19@071426 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>So does anyone know the Chinese symbol for WTF??
>Just Saturday night rambling, sorry! ;o)
>-Roman

       Roman, maybe you need some sleep? :o)))

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2001\05\19@084334 by Jinx

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> Like simple common concepts, like AFAIK, BTW, ASAP,
> etc. (ETC??) This is great, only need a few letters
> to describe a whole concept!

>         Roman, maybe you need some sleep? :o)))

Yeah, grab some Z's  ;-)

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2001\05\19@121725 by 1?Q?Alexandre_N._Guimar=E3es?=

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WOW !!

   I guess we all need some more sleep !!! The worst part is that I agree
with him . :-)

   The only problem is that this is not universal. You can not imagine the
trouble it is for us that do not have english as our native language. Many
times I can not figure out what those "weird letters" mean at all. ;-)

Best regards,
Alexandre Guimaraes


> So does anyone know the Chinese symbol for WTF??
> Just Saturday night rambling, sorry! ;o)
> -Roman

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2001\05\19@122157 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>> Like simple common concepts, like AFAIK, BTW, ASAP,
>> etc. (ETC??) This is great, only need a few letters
>> to describe a whole concept!
>>         Roman, maybe you need some sleep? :o)))
>Yeah, grab some Z's  ;-)

       Grab or release? :o)

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2001\05\19@130419 by Quentin

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Funny this discussion should come up in a list where we talk MOVWF,
DECF, ANDLW.........

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2001\05\19@131301 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>Funny this discussion should come up in a list where we talk MOVWF,
>DECF, ANDLW.........

       Even the pic has to SLEEP sometimes... :oD

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2001\05\19@143625 by rottosen

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Quentin wrote:
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> Funny this discussion should come up in a list where we talk MOVWF,
> DECF, ANDLW.........
>

These are well defined and documented in a well known place. Much
different than the bleary mix of letters often used when real English
would do nicely, thank you.


-- Rich


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2001\05\19@143820 by rottosen

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"Alexandre N. Guimarães" wrote:
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> WOW !!
>
>     I guess we all need some more sleep !!! The worst part is that I agree
> with him . :-)
>
>     The only problem is that this is not universal. You can not imagine the
> trouble it is for us that do not have english as our native language. Many
> times I can not figure out what those "weird letters" mean at all. ;-)


Neither can I a lot of times. And I claim to speak English -- the
American version anyway.  :-)


-- Rich

p.s.  May you cuold give me and our non-English-as-a-first-language
friends a break from the nearly meaningless scramble of letters
occasionly. Or at least redefine them once in a while. :-)




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2001\05\19@161021 by Bill Westfield

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So what is the next stage of this evolution of words
   into symbols? Actual symbols? Pictographs?? Wow...

Next will be the addition of useless embellishments like fonts and color
that add no meaning but take endless time and lots of bandwidth to do
"right."  We'll have gotten rid of secretaries because we can type, but
we'll need to hire graphic artists so that our documents can look good.
Meaty technical presentations that used to be done with an overhead
projector and typed or handwritten slides will be replaced by fluffy media
events that use a $$$$ laptop and a $$$$ projector, and show shaded
backgrounds, animated company logos, "company confidential" "watermarks",
and a wide variety of fancy transitions between slides.  Emails that used to
say "the company party will be 20-DEC, 7pm, at Fresh Choice" will instead be
half a megabyte of christmas tree graphics that require half the recipients
to remail it to another mail server so that they can display the picture.
Companies will have to pick a "standard" document prep system that noone
likes very much just to avoid the proliferation of dozens of different
systems that don't interoperate.

Oh wait...  all that already happened.

Next will come ... THE REVOLUTION!!!

:-)
BillW

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2001\05\19@221359 by Menno B Friesen

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"Alexandre N. Guimarces" wrote:
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> WOW !!
>
>     I guess we all need some more sleep !!! The worst part is that I agree
> with him . :-)
>
>     The only problem is that this is not universal. You can not imagine
the
> trouble it is for us that do not have english as our native language. Many
> times I can not figure out what those "weird letters" mean at all. ;-)


Neither can I a lot of times. And I claim to speak English -- the
American version anyway.  :-)


-- Rich

p.s.  May you cuold give me and our non-English-as-a-first-language
friends a break from the nearly meaningless scramble of letters
occasionly. Or at least redefine them once in a while. :-)

I agree. Why doesn't somebody post a reference chart of all the acronyms
somewhere --
then I could print the chart and hang it up close to the computer ........

Menno


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2001\05\19@233706 by rottosen

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"David W. Gulley" wrote:
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Unfortunately, this link only gives one definition at a time. I
addition, I am normally not online while reading the huge volume of
PICList email.


-- Rich


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2001\05\19@234941 by Dale Botkin

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AFAICR  As Far As I Can Recall
AFAICT  As Far As I Can Tell
AFAIK   As Far As I Know
BIMBW   But I May Be Wrong
FWIW    For What It's Worth
IANAL   I Am Not A Lawyer (but...)
IANAP   I Am Not A Programmer
IIRC    If I Recall Correctly
IOW     In Other Words
IMHO    In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO  In My Not So Humble Opinion
LOL     Laughing Out Loud
ROFL    Rolling On Floor Laughing
ROFLMAO Rolling On Floor Laughing My Ass Off
WTF     What The F***?
YMMV    Your Mileage May Vary

I know I must be missing a few...

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2001\05\19@235737 by Brandon Fosdick

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Menno B Friesen wrote:
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http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/

No printable chart, but you could bookmark it for quick searches. It
looks like a pretty complete list too, and I was impressed that they
didn't try and make RTFM more PC.

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2001\05\20@003202 by HEV

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Oh well....i am afraid you forgot to mention

BTAICBW     - But Then Again I Could Be Wrong...

after all this one originated the thread


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2001\05\20@015422 by Quentin

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Try this one, all on one page:
http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

Quentin
Richard Ottosen wrote:

> Unfortunately, this link only gives one definition at a time. I
> addition, I am normally not online while reading the huge volume of
> PICList email.

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2001\05\20@215833 by ptt.yu

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Thank you Roman!

In some country out there a man found scripts on artefacts from
archaeological sight. He claimed that these scripts are part of alphabet
and C14 analyse (in the middle of 20 century when this method was
accurate) place it to 5300-3200BC... far earlier than Phoenician
alphabet, but nobody believes. Why?.
Scholars teach that we had had pictograms first. Did we?
Peculiar thing is that Etruscan alphabet is one to one equal.

Predrag

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2001\05\21@152330 by Peter L. Peres

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>So does anyone know the Chinese symbol for WTF??
>Just Saturday night rambling, sorry! ;o)
>-Roman

This makes me ask out loud a question I've had for some time. The
Britannica occupies a fair amount of shelf space. Now, what space does an
equivalent Chinese dictionary occupy ? (pick your dialect).

Peter

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2001\05\21@185829 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>This makes me ask out loud a question I've had for some time. The
>Britannica occupies a fair amount of shelf space. Now, what space does an
>equivalent Chinese dictionary occupy ? (pick your dialect).

       What do you think the chinese wall serves for? :o)

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