Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
electronics.
I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
My English friends can also make their comments here.
Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
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Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
electronics.
I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
My English friends can also make their comments here.
Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
At 09:02 PM 8/7/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
>those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
>electronics.
>I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
>not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
>everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
>a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
>My English friends can also make their comments here.
>Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
My condolences, but, have one yerself.
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At 09:02 PM 8/7/01 +0200, Quentin wrote:
>Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
>those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
>electronics.
>I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
>not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
>everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
>a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
>My English friends can also make their comments here.
>Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
Say it with me: "Plummer"
We don't say "draughtsman" either, but we spell it funny. :)
I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here
in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to
differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to
have it.
> I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
> not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
> everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it
> is a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
Americans do not pronounce the 'b'.
I also don't think the statement that Americans pronounce everything the
way they see it is accurate - we seem to have a lot of silent letters
(like hour, for instance). Perhaps you are referring to when we are
trying to pronounce foreign words?
Quentin wrote:
>
>Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
>those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
>electronics.
>I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
>not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
>everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
>a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
>My English friends can also make their comments here.
>Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
>
I don't know what Americans you've been listening to who pronounce
'everything the way they see it'.
Most Americans pronounce most words very much like the British do. The 'b'
in 'plumber' is, indeed, silent in typical American pronunciation.
Accents aside, only a few words are noticeably different (British
'speciALity' vs American 'SPECialty' and British 'aluMINium' vs American
'aLUMinum' come to mind).
Oh, yeah, we pronounce 'truck' as 'truck', not 'lorry'. :=)
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Here in Southern California, it's commonly pronounced like dumber. I hope that
helps. :-)
Just for the record, the 'b' actually sounds like a second 'm' in both cases.
Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last name with
an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is a
long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
At 12:23 PM 8/7/01 -0700, Dipperstein, Michael wrote:
>Here in Southern California, it's commonly pronounced like dumber. I hope
>that
>helps. :-)
>
>Just for the record, the 'b' actually sounds like a second 'm' in both cases.
>
>Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last
>name with
>an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is a
>long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
I would have a link to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?KC6ETE-9 here
in my signature line, but due to the inability of sysadmins at TELOCITY to
differentiate a signature line from the text of an email, I am forbidden to
have it.
"Dipperstein, Michael" write:
>
>Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last name
>with
>an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is
>a
>long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>
That's the age-old rule:
'I' before 'E' except after 'C' (except when it's not)
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At 03:26 PM 8/7/01 -0400, you wrote:
>
>Most Americans pronounce most words very much like the British do. The 'b'
>in 'plumber' is, indeed, silent in typical American pronunciation.
Depending on the accent.. some English pronouce "sore" exactly the same
as "saw". Plumber could be "plum-ah".
Then there is the Aussies- is a "spice ship" something to be found plying
the straits of Malacca or is it a Buck Rogers vehicle?
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>since Americans pronounce
>everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
>a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
>Quentin
I say "Plummer" as in Christopher. I can't be sure about
my countrymen, since they've all started pronouncing the
G in Gnome again. English isn't WYSIWYG, but Spanish is.
As for our two nations divided by a common language, we do
manage to pronounce "Worcestershire" in 3 syllables. But
it's got me to wondering,
Shouldn't Rochester be pronounced "roster"?
And "duster" should be spelled Dustchester...
OK, OK, I loose the bet. Good thing is I am going to help the guy finish
the beers. :)
Seems like I've step on some toes here, sorry.
Good thing is, I picked up a handy link, thanks Spehro.
Yup Scott, time for a new project, big one coming up!
> I say "Plummer" as in Christopher. I can't be sure about
> my countrymen, since they've all started pronouncing the
> G in Gnome again. English isn't WYSIWYG, but Spanish is.
<snip>
> Now see what you've started.
Nope, disagree, Spanish is not, got pretty much their own pitfalls as
well: "h" is not pronounced (Hola), "j" is a gutural "g" (Julio), "ll"
is a "je" type of sound (Million), etc.
> >I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
> >not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
> >everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
> >a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
>Nope, disagree, Spanish is not, got pretty much their own pitfalls as
>well: "h" is not pronounced (Hola), "j" is a gutural "g" (Julio), "ll"
>is a "je" type of sound (Million), etc.
>
>Quentin
At least they stick to their rules. The rules don't change
when the letter appears in a different place. Though I
do recall a "v" at the beginning is like a "b"...But pretty
darned close.
>>Mind you this information is coming from somebody that
>>spells his last name with an 'e' preceding an 'i' and
>>no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is a
>>long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>>
In German, you pronounce the second letter (so I'm told), so
'ei' -> 'I'
'ie' -> 'E'
In English, you pronounce the name the way the owner tells
you he does :)
> Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
> those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
> electronics.
> I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
> not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
> everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
> a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
> My English friends can also make their comments here.
> Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
>
> Quentin
>
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> >Mind you this information is coming from somebody that
> spells his last
> >name with
> >an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that,
> but the 'e' is a
> >long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>
> I before E Except after C? Man that's just weird.
>
Yah, almost as wield as an uppercase letter in the middle of a word. :-)
> I don't know what Americans you've been listening to who pronounce
> 'everything the way they see it'.
I know the stereotypical American will announce everything we can
all see. Especially in movie theaters - "LOOK MARGE, HERE
COMES THE ALIEN !". Grrrrrr ! :-)
> Most Americans pronounce most words very much like the British do. The
> 'b' in 'plumber' is, indeed, silent in typical American pronunciation.
But Americans get much better mileage out of 'Z' than the English.
They even have their own name for it.
> Accents aside, only a few words are noticeably different (British
> 'speciALity' vs American 'SPECialty' and British 'aluMINium' vs
> American 'aLUMinum' come to mind).
Is there a reason why there is Aluminum but not Sodum,
Potassum, Plutonum, Uranum, etc. ? Is it spelt that way on
periodic tables or is it just the popular use spelling/pronounciation ?
So's the "p" in 'swimming pool' and the "q" in 'bank'
> > Accents aside, only a few words are noticeably different (British
> > 'speciALity' vs American 'SPECialty' and British 'aluMINium' vs
> > American 'aLUMinum' come to mind)
How about element 111, Uuu - Unununium ? Put that in
Americanese and and you'd sound like you're trying to
speak with a mouthful of mashed potato
Quentin wrote:
>
> Waaay OT. Sorry, I am in between projects here, and are having one of
> those rare breaks today where I think about everything 'cept PICs and
> electronics.
> I've got a bet going about the word plumber. Dictionary says the "b" is
> not pronounced. My argument is that, since Americans pronounce
> everything the way they see it, they do pronounce the "b", even if it is
> a soft one, it is still pronounced. Comments?
> My English friends can also make their comments here.
> Got a couple of beers riding on this one.
Weren't they financially trained in the room next to loyers.
> I don't know what Americans you've been listening to who pronounce
> 'everything the way they see it'.
>
> Most Americans pronounce most words very much like the British do. The 'b'
> in 'plumber' is, indeed, silent in typical American pronunciation.
>
> Accents aside, only a few words are noticeably different (British
> 'speciALity' vs American 'SPECialty' and British 'aluMINium' vs American
> 'aLUMinum' come to mind).
>
> Oh, yeah, we pronounce 'truck' as 'truck', not 'lorry'. :=)
hooroo = cheerio = good bye! A miniature kangaroo hey!
A wallaby (not the football type) is like a small type of kangaroo.
Do you have the impression that all us aussies have koalas as pets and
kangaroos in the garage as our transports! ?
-Mg
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From: "Scott F. Touchton"
>
> Hoo-roo??? A miniature kangaroo?????
> Perhaps you are referring to when we are
>trying to pronounce foreign words?
>
well with the exception of a very few native language speakers, and the odd
surviving town/area names, then Americans only ever pronouncing foreign
words.....don't they ?
>Do you have the impression that all us aussies have koalas as pets and
>kangaroos in the garage as our transports! ?
>
no of course not....what we are taught is:
you wear boots with shorts and have hats with corks hanging on them....you
can all walk on the backs of sheep and live in huts made of corrugated iron....
and we had most of this re-confirmed recently at the Olympics ceremonies...
oh' I nearly forgot...... you also send both telephone and mains supplies
over barbed wire fences.
maybe we could move this last subject back to [EE] for fun ?
>As for our two nations divided by a common language, we do
>manage to pronounce "Worcestershire" in 3 syllables. But
>it's got me to wondering,
>Shouldn't Rochester be pronounced "roster"?
>And "duster" should be spelled Dustchester...
>Now see what you've started.
Stupid English, you can see why the Americans went the way they did, but see
my message about 3 emails back.
Another English stupidity is that the town of Towcester is pronounced
Toaster (as in that thing you put bread in to brown or burn) and the town of
Howick (New Zealand pronunciation How-ick) is pronounced Hoick (as in what
people do before spitting on the pavement)
Boy all this pronunciation thing has the spelling checker confused, you
should see some of the suggestions for replacement words :)
>Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last
>name with
>an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but the 'e' is
a
>long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>I before E Except after C? Man that's just weird.
maybe weird, but consistent with German spelling, and I suspect he would
pronounce it to rhyme with that German beer container (a Stein) in which
case the name is probably of German origin.
>I also don't think the statement that Americans pronounce everything the
>way they see it is accurate - we seem to have a lot of silent letters
>(like hour, for instance). Perhaps you are referring to when we are
>trying to pronounce foreign words?
Perhaps someone can tell me why Americans pronounce the word "solder" as
"sodder", and while we are at it why is "Arkansas" pronounced as "Arkansaw"
instead of rhyming with "Kansas"?
Alan (who lives not far from the home of the Oxford Dictionary)
> >I also don't think the statement that Americans pronounce everything the
> >way they see it is accurate - we seem to have a lot of silent letters
> >(like hour, for instance). Perhaps you are referring to when we are
> >trying to pronounce foreign words?
>
> Perhaps someone can tell me why Americans pronounce the word "solder" as
> "sodder", and while we are at it why is "Arkansas" pronounced as "Arkansaw"
> instead of rhyming with "Kansas"?
'Cause those are the proper pronunciations for those words... at least
it is here! How on earth do you pronounce "solder"? 8-)
> Alan (who lives not far from the home of the Oxford Dictionary)
Oxford dictionary... yeah, that's the one that went over the side of the
boat along with the tea, as someone here observerd once - right? 8-)
Dale
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Just like all us Americans wear six shooters and ride horses!!!!!!!
I just had never heard the expression before... I don't get around much.
Australia is on my list to visit some time in my life, I hear it is
beautiful.
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hooroo = cheerio = good bye! A miniature kangaroo hey!
A wallaby (not the football type) is like a small type of kangaroo.
Do you have the impression that all us aussies have koalas as pets and
kangaroos in the garage as our transports! ?
-Mg
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From: "Scott F. Touchton"
>
> Hoo-roo??? A miniature kangaroo?????
>'Cause those are the proper pronunciations for those words... at least
>it is here!
So why do they not spell the names of the states as they are pronounced??? I
don't altogether buy any argument that that is how the Indians spelt them :)
>How on earth do you pronounce "solder"? 8-)
as "Sold-err" (i.e. including the L). At least if youse guys is going to
pronounce it different at least change the spelling like you did with
"aluminium"
> So why do they not spell the names of the states as they are pronounced??? I
> don't altogether buy any argument that that is how the Indians spelt them :)
Arkansas is pronounced exactly as it should be. It's Kansas that isn't. :-)
>> Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last
>> name with an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that,
>> but the 'e' is a long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
> maybe weird, but consistent with German spelling, and I suspect he would
> pronounce it to rhyme with that German beer container (a Stein) in which
> case the name is probably of German origin.
I always pronounced the beer container "stine", not "steen", and assumed
he pronounced his last name "Dippersteen". Have I been saying the
beer container incorrectly?
>> Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last
>> name with an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that,
>> but the 'e' is a long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
> maybe weird, but consistent with German spelling, and I suspect he would
> pronounce it to rhyme with that German beer container (a Stein) in which
> case the name is probably of German origin.
I always pronounced the beer container "stine", not "steen", and assumed
he pronounced his last name "Dippersteen". Have I been saying the
beer container incorrectly?
>Have I been saying the
>beer container incorrectly?
I would say "no" and as the surname is spelt with "ei" I would expect it to
be pronounced to rhyme with "stine", but then the owner of the name may say
it differently. :)
At the end of the argument the owner of the surname is the arbiter of how it
is said.
I asked an american colleague the same two years ago, and was astonished when last
year another american (in Maryland) didn't understand my order for that brand of
beer ;-)
> Hi,
>
> On the subject of beer, how do you pronounce Michelob - not that I drink
> the stuff....I prefer warm, tasty beer ;-)
>
> Mikellob?
> Mishelobb ?
>
> or something else?
>
> Dan
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> >> Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his last
> >> name with an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that,
> >> but the 'e' is a long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>
> > maybe weird, but consistent with German spelling, and I suspect he would
> > pronounce it to rhyme with that German beer container (a Stein) in which
> > case the name is probably of German origin.
>
> I always pronounced the beer container "stine", not "steen", and assumed
> he pronounced his last name "Dippersteen". Have I been saying the
> beer container incorrectly?
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> >Have I been saying the
> >beer container incorrectly?
>
> I would say "no" and as the surname is spelt with "ei" I would expect it to
> be pronounced to rhyme with "stine", but then the owner of the name may say
> it differently. :)
>
> At the end of the argument the owner of the surname is the arbiter of how it
> is said.
At 04:58 PM 8/8/01 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I asked an american colleague the same two years ago, and was astonished
when last
>year another american (in Maryland) didn't understand my order for that
brand of
>beer ;-)
Mick-el-ohb
But I prefer to say "Molsons", "Labatts" or "Sapporo".
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>At the end of the argument the owner of the surname is the arbiter of how
>it
>is said.
>
Usually true, but sometimes subject to change. When I was in the Navy (many
years ago), our ship had a crusty gunner's mate named 'Thereault'(sp?). He
pronounced his name 'the-RAWLT'.
A new ensign reported aboard with the same last name who pronounced his name
'TERR-ee-oh'.
Over the 1MC (PA system), you'd hear the announcement "Gunner's mate
the-RAWLT, report to Ensign TERR-ee-o on the bridge". (Of course, the
difference was often exaggerated to make the ensign's name sound prissy. He
eventually changed the pronuciation to match the gunner's mate's.)
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:33:17 -0500 David VanHorn <.....dvanhorn@spam@EraseMECEDAR.NET>
writes:
> At 12:23 PM 8/7/01 -0700, Dipperstein, Michael wrote:
> >Here in Southern California, it's commonly pronounced like dumber.
> I hope
> >that
> >helps. :-)
> >
> >Just for the record, the 'b' actually sounds like a second 'm' in
> both cases.
> >
> >Mind you this information is coming from somebody that spells his
> last
> >name with
> >an 'e' preceding an 'i' and no 'c' in sight. Not only that, but
> the 'e' is a
> >long 'e' and the 'i' is silent.
>
> I before E Except after C? Man that's just weird.
>
As I recall, it's I before E except after C or if it sounds like A, as
in NEIGHBOR and WEIGH.
BTW, THANKS for the pointer to speech file on plumber! I've got a new
(PIC based, of course) product (see http://www.braillemaster.d2g.com)
that has speech on an ISD4004-08 chip. So far, it's MY speech. I'm
looking to license standard word speech files. So far I've contacted
Merriam Webster. No one there ever thought of licensing the speech files
on their website, so they're thinking about it. I've now also sent a
request to bartleby.
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Yeah but u see americans cant distinguisg the difference between a boot and a
trunk its obvious to us brits that a trunk is part of an elephant not a car
and a boot is a duel purpose item for putting both luggage and your foot in !
> On the subject of beer, how do you pronounce Michelob - not that I drink
> the stuff....I prefer warm, tasty beer ;-)
>
> Mikellob?
> Mishelobb ?
>
> or something else?
> On the subject of beer, how do you pronounce Michelob - not that I drink
> the stuff....I prefer warm, tasty beer ;-)
>
> Mikellob?
> Mishelobb ?
>
> or something else?
You kiwi's always have to be different!
The funniest thing I've heard on radio is a kiwi lady ringing up to tell the
radio station not to air a certain toyota ad anymore because her kiwi
husband was receiving a lot of flack at work with respect to this ad. The
toyota ad had a kiwi saying bugger engine, bugger exterior and bugger
inside! Bugger is the word that comes out when a kiwi trys to say the word
better! - well this is what I learnt from these ads!
For the unfamiliar; a kiwi refers to a New Zealand person, and New Zealand
is an independent island not too far South East of Australia, pop. of about
3.5M. Oh and lots of sheep too!
-Mg
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From: "Jinx"
> > hooroo = cheerio = good bye !
>
> The Kiwi equivalent is "hooray". Weird. I've heard the
> derivation but flipped if I can remember what it is
>
> http://www.chemistry.co.nz/kiwi.htm
To quote crusty old Imperialist Winston Churchill, with ref to
pronunciation, "It is the right of every Englishman to pronounce
foreign words any way he pleases". Hear hear ;-), you tell'em
Winnie
> The funniest thing I've heard on radio is a kiwi lady ringing up to
> tell the radio station not to air a certain toyota ad anymore
You wouldn't believe the fuss when Toyota brought out that ad. Most
of the spoken words in the ad are "bugger". Even the sheep dog
has a go. Along with "bollocks" (in certain usage), it's now deemed
acceptable for broadcast
And right back at ya, the funniest thing I've heard on radio
Then there was the American Austronaut that crash-landed in the
Australian outback. When he finally came to after being unconscious for
more than 24 hours, he noticed he was in pretty bad shape. Luckily he
was found by a man. The Austronaut asked the man "Did I come here to
die?" to which the man replied (in a very thick Australian accent), "No,
you got here yesterday."
>
> "Alan B. Pearce" wrote:
>
> >
> >At the end of the argument the owner of the surname is the arbiter of how
> >it
> >is said.
> >
>
> Usually true, but sometimes subject to change. When I was in the Navy (many
> years ago), our ship had a crusty gunner's mate named 'Thereault'(sp?). He
> pronounced his name 'the-RAWLT'.
>
> A new ensign reported aboard with the same last name who pronounced his name
> 'TERR-ee-oh'.
>
> Over the 1MC (PA system), you'd hear the announcement "Gunner's mate
> the-RAWLT, report to Ensign TERR-ee-o on the bridge". (Of course, the
> difference was often exaggerated to make the ensign's name sound prissy. He
> eventually changed the pronuciation to match the gunner's mate's.)
>
> Regards, Bob
>
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As you know, when NASA, JPL, et al send up probes, they include
experiments to try and detect signs of life. Because Galileo (I
think) had to fly by Earth on its way to Jupiter, they turned the
sensors on Earth and did the same tests. The results were that
indicators of life having evolved were a strong positive but there
were no detected signs of intelligent life. The largest landmass
visible to the spacecraft during the tests was Australia. Draw your
own conclusions.
Steve.
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