Post by thread:[OT]: NOPPP9x on Win2000

Hey guys, Just got a new computer and put Windows 2000 on it (oh I *do* love trying to find everything I used to have and then installing it). One of the things I came across was NOPPP9x, something which I've gotten used to and would like to continue using. Yet, I get errors when trying to run it. Realizing that it's NOPPP9x and not NOPPP2k, is it a problem with using Windows 2000 or am I still just missing libraries and stuff? Thanks -Tony -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

With W2k you will have no direct access (dos) to the printer port. Rick Tony Goetz wrote: {Quote hidden}> Hey guys, > Just got a new computer and put Windows 2000 on it (oh I *do* love trying to > find everything I used to have and then installing it). One of the things I > came across was NOPPP9x, something which I've gotten used to and would like > to continue using. Yet, I get errors when trying to run it. Realizing that > it's NOPPP9x and not NOPPP2k, is it a problem with using Windows 2000 or am I > still just missing libraries and stuff? Thanks > > -Tony > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

LoL, I'm not going to bite. I've used Windows and I like it cause I'm familiar with it, but I can see where Linux would be useful. Eh, but other than programming Pic's and maybe running Pic development programs I don't have much need for it. Then again, the computer will most likely go up on the network as a print server in which case Linux could have its advantages. I'd like to be able to boot it up and not worry about it again for a long time. Any chance Win2k could do that? Oh yes, and it's a Pent133, 32mb of Ram. Let's see what we can do with that.... -Tony {Quote hidden}> [Battle gear securely on.] > > L I N U X ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > It's a dedicated development box for now, and hasn't been rebooted a month > or two now. Try that with Win-whatever <sneid-looking smiley goes here>. > I > use MPASM on dosemu, and pp-0.6 (linux version) to dump the hex files to > the > chip. Yes, there are other ways, arguably better, but this was relatively > easy to setup, works well, and is *stable*. > > Cheers, > -Neil "Battle suit will remain on, cause someone will bite" N. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

There are a few other options. First, there are utilities that allow dos programs direct port access under win2k/xp, one of which is mentioned by David Tait for his programmer software FPP: ********* Taken from FPP.ZIP's readme.htm FPP fiddles with I/O ports directly and while this is tolerated under Win95/98/Me, it is a definite no-no on NT-like versions of Windows. To get around this the program looks for and uses a special driver called "GIVEIO.SYS" which can be downloaded asdirectio.zip <http://www.ddj.com/ftp/1996/1996.05/directio.zip> from the Dr Dobb's Journal archive. You only need this driver if you use Windows NT, Windows 2000 or Windows XP. The driver can be installed in a variety of ways but I used a program called "LOADDRV.EXE" (one source of this program is loaddrv.zip <http://pages.zoom.co.uk/andyc/loaddrv.zip>). The method I used was as follows: * Copy GIVEIO.SYS to a folder (for example SYSTEM32 in the Windows system folder) * Run LOADDRV, specify the full path name of GIVEIO.SYS, and hit install * Reboot * Run the Device Manager (from the hardware tab of the System control panel item) * Select the menu option to show hidden devices * Look for "giveio" under non-plug&play drivers, right click and select properties * Using the driver tab of the properties sheet select Automatic * Reboot ********* The program using the driver has to be aware of it, however. I don't know who recompiled NOPPP for windows but they may have done something similar. I've heard that there are drivers for programs that have no special knowledge of that situation, check out Jan Axelson's web site on the parallel port, IIRC she has a similar driver. The second option is to use David Taits software which is compatible with a wide variety of cheap PIC programmers, though I don't see him spell out the particular settings for the NOPPP I imagine it would work fine. It may not have all the self test features of the NOPPP program, though. His software can be found here: http://people.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html Hope this helps. -Adam Tony Goetz wrote: {Quote hidden}>Hey guys, >Just got a new computer and put Windows 2000 on it (oh I *do* love trying to >find everything I used to have and then installing it). One of the things I >came across was NOPPP9x, something which I've gotten used to and would like >to continue using. Yet, I get errors when trying to run it. Realizing that >it's NOPPP9x and not NOPPP2k, is it a problem with using Windows 2000 or am I >still just missing libraries and stuff? Thanks > >-Tony > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics >(like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > > >. > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Pic Dude wrote: >[Battle gear securely on.] > >L I N U X ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! >It's a dedicated development box for now, and hasn't been rebooted a month >or two now. Try that with Win-whatever <sneid-looking smiley goes here>. I >use MPASM on dosemu, and pp-0.6 (linux version) to dump the hex files to the You can use MPLAB in wine. >chip. Yes, there are other ways, arguably better, but this was relatively >easy to setup, works well, and is *stable*. > >Cheers, >-Neil "Battle suit will remain on, cause someone will bite" N. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body