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'[OT]: Making a bootable win2k cd'
2001\11\07@122448 by Brandon Fosdick

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My Win2K pro disk isn't bootable, which I think is a really dumb thing
for MS to do. Since I have all of this fancy CD writing software I'm
wondering if I could roll my own bootable cd that happens to have a
"backup" copy of win2k on it. Do any of you have any experience with
making bootable cd's? Can I just make a regular bootdisk on it? Has
anybody used the tools in the bootdisk directory of the cd?

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2001\11\07@125109 by Madhu Annapragada

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I have used the mkboot utility on the Win2K CD to make bootable
floppies.Don't know about the bootable CD though...I think you need to be
able to set the BIOS up to boot from a CD and this is possible only with
some of the newer version of the CD drives.

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2001\11\07@154008 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 12:10 11/07/2001 -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
>Do any of you have any experience with
>making bootable cd's? Can I just make a regular bootdisk on it? Has
>anybody used the tools in the bootdisk directory of the cd?

You can make a bootable CD with e.g. Adaptec Easy CD. You need to have a
bootable floppy, and Easy CD has an option to use that floppy to make a CD
bootable. It will boot into DOS (or whatever was on the floppy). Of course
your computer must be able to boot from CD.

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2001\11\07@183930 by Gennette, Bruce

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If you install XOSL you can boot from CD on older computers too.

http://www.xosl.org/

Bye.


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       At 12:10 11/07/2001 -0500, Brandon Fosdick wrote:
       >Do any of you have any experience with
       >making bootable cd's? Can I just make a regular bootdisk on it? Has
       >anybody used the tools in the bootdisk directory of the cd?

       You can make a bootable CD with e.g. Adaptec Easy CD. You need to
have a
       bootable floppy, and Easy CD has an option to use that floppy to
make a CD
       bootable. It will boot into DOS (or whatever was on the floppy). Of
course
       your computer must be able to boot from CD.

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2001\11\08@051504 by Dennis Noordsij

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On Wednesday 07 November 2001 19:10, you wrote:
> My Win2K pro disk isn't bootable, which I think is a really dumb thing
> for MS to do. Since I have all of this fancy CD writing software I'm
> wondering if I could roll my own bootable cd that happens to have a
> "backup" copy of win2k on it. Do any of you have any experience with
> making bootable cd's? Can I just make a regular bootdisk on it? Has
> anybody used the tools in the bootdisk directory of the cd?

Hi,

First make sure your BIOS can boot off a CD-ROM.

Then find a boot floppy (possibly with an older version of DOS) with some
generic ATAPI CD-ROM drivers on it. What you want to achieve is to be able to
boot off that floppy, while having your CD-ROM of choice in the CD-ROM drive
(of course now BIOS needs to boot off floppy), and have the floppy recognise
the CD and put it to D: or R: or whatever.

You can then burn a copy of that CD-ROM with an El Toro (or whatever it is
called :-) boot floppy built in. The result will boot the same as if you had
a floppy seperately from the CD.

Yes, I agree it's very stupid the CD can't boot by itself :-)

Dennis

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2001\11\08@101803 by Eoin Ross

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www.nu2.nu/bootcd/#w2k

Bootable Windows 2000 CD-Rom

This will show you how to create a bootable Windows 2000 Professional, Server or Advanced Server CD-Rom. Optionally you can integrate service pack, add service packs, security hotfixes and other stuff to your CD. The boot catalog and NT bootstrap loader are hidden, just like the original bootable Windows 2000 CD-Rom.

Joliet extensions are enabled by default, so you can have long filenames on the CD, the original Microsoft Windows 2000 bootable CD-Rom uses only ISO9660.

The steps to create are:...............

>>> @spam@bruce.gennetteKILLspamspamTAFE.NSW.EDU.AU 11/07/01 06:36PM >>>
If you install XOSL you can boot from CD on older computers too.

http://www.xosl.org/
Bye.


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2001\11\09@120356 by Ian Jordan

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W2K Pro disks are bootable - at least all the ones I have used are, just
like the new XP disks. I would check and make sure that your computer
supports CD booting before going through the hassle of making another CD.

How would you install a copy of 2K or XP on a computer with no OS unless the
CD would boot? Even MS wouldn't do that.

--Ian

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2001\11\09@123917 by Chris Carr

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I cannot speak for Win2k but this used to be a problem with Win 95
on odd occasions with Win 98 and I have not met the problem with Win 98SE
The CDROM drive has to be ATAPI compliant. Win 95 would not recognise some
drives which the manufacturer claimed were ATAPI compliant as being so.
I presume the problem does not arise with Win 98SE because Oak Technology
(the people who actually write the ATAPI software)have improved the software
and because CDROM manufacturers have come to a common consensus over the
areas
in the ATAPI Standard which are open to interpretation. Are you using an
old CDROM Drive ?

The solution with Win95 was to use a startup floppy generated on another
machine
My Computer/ Add-Remove Programs/ Startup Disk. modified with the addition
of CDROM drivers to gain access to the CDROM and start the installation
process

Apologies for wasting bandwidth if this is of no help

Chris Carr

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2001\11\09@130139 by Gerhard Fiedler

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At 09:07 11/09/2001 -0800, Ian Jordan wrote:
>W2K Pro disks are bootable - at least all the ones I have used are, just
>like the new XP disks. I would check and make sure that your computer
>supports CD booting before going through the hassle of making another CD.

Mine is, too. And since I had to do it anyway, I just checked -- Win2k
setup doesn't start from DOS.

>How would you install a copy of 2K or XP on a computer with no OS unless the
>CD would boot? Even MS wouldn't do that.

Actually, with a Win2k CD you can make 4 floppies (the first is bootable),
and with this it's possible to install Win2k without booting from CD.

ge

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2001\11\09@134026 by Dal Wheeler

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Is it an upgrade disk?  Mine boots as well.  Very strange sort of thing for
MS to do if it's genuine.  NT4 even booted w/o the install disks.
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2001\11\09@135711 by brandon

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You can make it bootable using software such as Nero. I believe its free. You just get an old Win98 boot disk and tell nero where the contents of it are. Then you will be able to boot into dos with CD-ROM support.

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>Is it an upgrade disk?  Mine boots as well.  Very strange sort of thing for
>MS to do if it's genuine.  NT4 even booted w/o the install disks.
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2001\11\09@213123 by cdb

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there is a way to load 2K in DOS

Navigate to the I386 folder and choose winnt.exe this will start the setup
program and from win9x same folder and use winnt32.exe

The menu choices are slightly different and if you've used a 'backup' of a
CD you may get file errors if the backer upper was unaware of some pitfalls.

colin

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2001\11\09@223808 by Brandon Fosdick

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Thanks to everyone for all of the responses. I haven't gotten around to
trying any of the suggestions yet, my thesis is about to be due and my
priorities have changed. I'll let you know when I do.

My CDROM is in fact ATAPI compliant and I can boot cd's from it, the
FreeBSD disks boot just fine. The win2k cd I have is definately not
bootable, but its not an original either. My university bought into MS's
mega-license for everyone policy so I have a copy that I got from higher
up admins. I guess they didn't do it right. Not suprising, this whole
place is run by untrained monkeys.

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