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2001\11\18@032851 by Russell McMahon

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Where-ever you are on earth (but ideally Northern hemisphere).
Tonight SHOULD be the best Leonid peak until 2099.
Search for "Leonids" or step outside and check the (night) sky

Southern hemisphere only towards dawn.


       RM

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2001\11\18@034151 by Peter May

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Canberra Australia Here. Round 4 am apparently.... Maybe if I could get a
PIC to kick me in the butt I might have a chance of getting up and seeing
them. IS this a sign of getting old? Being interested ion something
described to me some 20 years ago at school.

Regards, Peter.

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2001\11\18@093115 by Bob Ammerman

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My lovely wife woke me up this morning at 4AM. W got the kids up (the 16
year old wouldn't go), grabbed a ground cloth and some sleeping bags and
headed for the country. We lay mesmerized on the ground for about 45
minutes. I am sure we made some memories that our children will carry with
them for the rest of their lives.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems


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2001\11\18@102642 by David VanHorn

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At 09:31 AM 11/18/01 -0800, Bob Ammerman wrote:
>My lovely wife woke me up this morning at 4AM. W got the kids up (the 16
>year old wouldn't go), grabbed a ground cloth and some sleeping bags and
>headed for the country. We lay mesmerized on the ground for about 45
>minutes. I am sure we made some memories that our children will carry with
>them for the rest of their lives.
>
>Bob Ammerman
>RAm Systems

Totally fogged in here, for the last 36 hours. @#!$##!

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2001\11\18@104908 by Kathy Quinlan

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It is thundery showers here in Perth Au :o(

Regards,

Kat.

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2001\11\18@105103 by Herbert Graf
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> At 09:31 AM 11/18/01 -0800, Bob Ammerman wrote:
> >My lovely wife woke me up this morning at 4AM. W got the kids up (the 16
> >year old wouldn't go), grabbed a ground cloth and some sleeping bags and
> >headed for the country. We lay mesmerized on the ground for about 45
> >minutes. I am sure we made some memories that our children will
> carry with
> >them for the rest of their lives.
> >
> >Bob Ammerman
> >RAm Systems
>
> Totally fogged in here, for the last 36 hours. @#!$##!

       Yes here too (Toronto, Canada), I actually got up at 4am to see if there
was anything to see but the fog meant more sleep time for me! :( TTYL

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2001\11\18@124714 by Thomas McGahee

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Got up and watched the meteorite shower from 4:30 am to 5:30 am
here in Paterson, New Jersey.

Did it laying on the top of the school roof. There was a fair
amount of light pollution as we are in the city, but I found
a nice patch of open sky that was almost exactly straight
overhead. About half of the time I was using the unaided eye.
This gave me a fairly broad field of vision and I saw about
60 shooting stars this way. The other half of the time I used
a night vision scope that has a gain of about 30,000. This
reduced the field of vision, but enhanced the ability to see
some of the smaller shooting star trails as they passed through
my field of vision. I counted about 80 trails using the night
vision scope, so altogether I saw about 140 "shooting stars".

By the way, with the night vision scope I can see many many
more stars than I can with the unaided eye, and even when I
wasn't seeing a meteorite trail, I could see an amazing
proliferation of stars. I also spotted 5 satellites. All in all,
well worth spending an hour of my life gazing up at the sky
at night.

Fr. Thomas McGahee

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2001\11\18@131444 by Jim

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RE: the satellite and night vision scope -

Could elaborate as to what you obeserved when you
saw the sats and also what model 'night scope'
you were using?

Thanks in advance.

Jim


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2001\11\18@134514 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>My lovely wife woke me up this morning at 4AM. W got the kids up (the 16
>year old wouldn't go), grabbed a ground cloth and some sleeping bags and
>headed for the country. We lay mesmerized on the ground for about 45
>minutes. I am sure we made some memories that our children will carry with
>them for the rest of their lives.

       No photos? ;o)


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2001\11\18@135908 by steve

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Auckland, New Zealand.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Steve.

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2001\11\18@153640 by Chris Carr

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> Totally fogged in here, for the last 36 hours. @#!$##!
>
That's why you don't waste your time with the pretty optical
effects which you may or may not see because of the weather
but make use of the ionisation trails which is a lot more
interesting and may prove to be more available
(when we get round to processing the data)
Hey it's even an opportunity to use yet more PIC's
and it gives the Spooks at Menwith Hill and Fylingdales
something to think about.

How do we detect the falling meteorite so we can direct
the antennas in the right direction and elevation if we cannot
see it? What's the smiley for an extremely large grin?

Chris Carr

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2001\11\18@172858 by Jinx

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Awe-inspiring, spectacular, dazzling, embiggening, humbling,
epiphanic, meteorific

Just some of the words I wish I could have used about the Leonids,
not the stream of oaths and gutter invective that made the wallpaper
curl and the cat look away in disgust and embarrassment. Once more,
the Universe Inc CEO (Celestial Events Organiser) plants a turd on
my path through life, which I gullibly stepped on to. Yet again

The only glimmer of hope for seeing flitting stars was when I banged
my head on the desk as I took my shoes off. Unfortunately I suffer
from "Roger Rabbit Syndrome", and was merely pestered by a small
flock of a-little-too-happy bluebirds for a minute or two

I'd have been better off doing that deal with the kid next door for him
to throw left-over sparklers off his roof for me to oooh and aaah at

> Auckland, New Zealand.
>
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> Steve.

Lucky stiff

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2001\11\18@215104 by Russell McMahon

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> Awe-inspiring, spectacular, dazzling, embiggening, humbling,
> epiphanic, meteorific

Well, you often can't have everything, but I would rate what I saw as 1,2,
?4?, ?5, ???7??? above

> Once more,
> the Universe Inc CEO (Celestial Events Organiser) plants a turd on
> my path through life, which I gullibly stepped on to. Yet again

Ye would nae be developing a victim mentality there would ye laddie?
On Sunay morning at 4am I dressed up warmish & dryish and lay in the local
park for 90 minutes odd, stared at the sky and saw no Leonids.
The one interesting south to north satellite was almost worth the time and
just staring at the starry sky balanced the ledger sheet to the positive.

Last night (Monday morning NZ time) I got up at 3:15am and dressed up
warmish etc etc and travelled to St Heliers and saw 30+ Leonids from the
park at the end of the known world, while being spied on by one of the local
TV teams. (See TV3 6pm News Monday night - you may hear comments about my
having thermal underwear on)(The which was very welcome due to somewhat
nippy conditions which everyone else complained about). The children belong
to a friend who gave a much more erudite speech for the camera than I would
have been capable of, thermal long-johns notwithstanding. .

I suspect that I would have done quite well from the local Te Atatu park -
local cloud cover is THE biggest factor.

I'll be back (local park only) (CEO willing) for one more try tonight
(Tuesday morning NZ). From about 3am look between N and E and from horizon
right up to zenith and beyond (tricky blighters). Small ones were visible
from 3 I'm told and got brighter by 4. Try to have something block out city
lights. Display continues till well past dawn. If Jupiter is bright then
meteorites may be visible.

Consider investing one more early arising "just in case". We are
theoretically past the peak but past results have shown that, as with the
stockmarket, past performance is not an indicator of future results (not
totally anyway).

I rang a friend in Hamilton at 4:15am - the CEO had laid on wall to wall
cloud there and he saw nothing (except cloud).


regards


       Russell



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2001\11\19@013430 by Jinx

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> > Once more,
> > the Universe Inc CEO (Celestial Events Organiser) plants a turd on
> > my path through life, which I gullibly stepped on to. Yet again
>
> Ye would nae be developing a victim mentality there would ye laddie?

Oh yeah, poster-boy for Victim Support. Jinx by name, Jinx by nature

But actually things may be picking up. I took a ride in a $600,000
Mercedes yesterday. Wouldn't mind buying it. Got bags of room
inside, huge motor, and very smooth. Don't think Stagecoach sell
their buses though

> Last night (Monday morning NZ time) I got up at 3:15am and dressed up
> warmish etc etc and travelled to St Heliers and saw 30+ Leonids from the

I waited 1/2 hour, saw just one, give it the fingers, quick fumble in the
PJ's and back to bed. If, a big IF, I wake up in the night I'll have a look,
but don't fancy travelling anywhere. I believe this suburb has a N-E just
as efficient and up-to-date as most others'

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2001\11\19@022124 by Quentin

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OK, You guys complaining about the cloud cover. You think you had it
bad. I had cloud cover and daylight....
So Jinx, there are still some glimmer of hope for you left...

:)
Quentin

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2001\11\19@023412 by Jinx

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> OK, You guys complaining about the cloud cover. You think
> you had it bad. I had cloud cover and daylight.... So Jinx,
> there are still some glimmer of hope for you left...
>
> :)
> Quentin

OK OK, no more moaning Minnie

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2001\11\19@075030 by Thomas McGahee

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Satellites are near-earth objects, and you can normally
spot them as objects that appear to move rather fast relative to the
stars in the background. Geo-synchronous satellites
appear more or less fixed in position. If one is overhead
you can usually spot it in the early morning hours when it
reflects a lot of sunlight while the sky still appears dark.

My night scope is a soviet union police scope. It uses
mirror optics, something like a questar or reflecting
telescope. This allows the scope to gather a LOT of light.

If you are out of focus, then a sharp spot of
light will look like a ring of light. The scope I used
will focus from about 25 ft to infinity. When properly
focused the image is quite sharp. I bought the night vision
scope for $200. Besides visible light, it is quite sensitive
to infra-red as well.

Fr. Tom McGahee

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2001\11\19@113831 by Peter L. Peres

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>How do we detect the falling meteorite so we can direct
>the antennas in the right direction and elevation if we cannot
>see it? What's the smiley for an extremely large grin?

They come in bunches, all from the same direction, and 'illuminate' a
certain part of the sky that is predictable. If you point your antenna
there at the right time for your area then you can make at least one
single bounce at VHF or UHF which should allow a contact at >2000km at
that altitude of 'illumination'. I assume that you point at the
'illuminated' area when it is just over your horizon and just over the
intended receiver's horizon.

Still need lots of power and antenna gain.

Peter

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