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'[OT]: How tolerant is your partner of your "hobbie'
2002\11\25@172410 by Dominic Stratten

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How well does your partner put up with you using the house as a workshop,
bits of electronic components getting trodden round the building, asking
her/him to RRF in the middle of the night because they are taking up too
much space in bed ;-)

All those late nights spend debugging code instead of sitting down with your
hot chocolate and watching a good film, coming to bed muttering about
interrupts, stack overflows and "whose stupid idea was it to use page
banking".

My ex-wife was terrible, she had no patience with my tinkering. Stuff would
get mysteriously tidied away never to be seen again. Chips would look like
they'd been trodden on, tools would be used to open cans etc.

Current girlfriend is wonderful. She pays for my hobbies (I stay at home and
look after a child with ADHD), rarely complains, totally ignores me when I
start talking about electronic stuff and its only when she steps on
something sharp that I really get it in the neck.

How do your partners cope ? ;-)


Dom

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2002\11\25@175326 by Dave Dilatush

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Dom wrote...

>My ex-wife was terrible, she had no patience with my tinkering. Stuff would
>get mysteriously tidied away never to be seen again. Chips would look like
>they'd been trodden on, tools would be used to open cans etc.

My ex-wife was fine with my tinkering; she recognized the hobby
served as "calesthenics" to keep my skills sharp for bringing
home lots of bacon.

But I know what you mean about the tools.  One day I came home
from work and she met me at the door in full rant mode: no-good,
worthless piece-of-crap nailset tool just fell apart when she
tried to sink some nail heads with it.  What junk!  And to prove
her point, she handed me the remains of the offending instrument:
my poor little OK hobby wirewrap tool!

DD

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2002\11\25@180452 by Lyle Hazelwood

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I am fortunate here, My wife goes beyond tolerant, and even is
supportive
of my works. As I am currently working on Home Automation, it's a good
thing, too. She even contributed ideas for new features.

So far, my "workspace" has been a corner of the living room, (and not
too
pretty to look at) but we are closing on a house in two days and my
office/
workspace has already been designated.

Now I get to find out how much more productive I can be with a bit of
peace and quiet while I work, instead of the TV blaring in my right
ear
and my daughters streaming radio feed blasting in my left ear.

Ahh, but for a peaceful place to do my work.. I'd be willing to sign
a 30 year mortgage!

Lyle

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2002\11\25@182150 by William Chops Westfield

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   How well does your partner put up with you using the house as a workshop,
   bits of electronic components getting trodden round the building

We're about even.  I've got the electronics parts, and she's got yarn.
I've got model rocket parts, she's got fabric.  I've got the
oscilloscope, metal lathe and assorted hand tools, she's got a sewing
machine, a couple of sergers, and an alarming collection of knitting
needles and crochet hooks.  I'm falling a bit behind in the book &
magazine collection, but I've got the explosives.

Of course, this requires a large house...  Can't wait for the kids to
move out!

BillW

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2002\11\25@182805 by Tony Nixon
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A missus that puts up with a Harley, flying and endless PIC projects
keeps me going.

....well most of the time ;-)


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2002\11\25@183407 by Benjamin Bromilow

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From: "Dominic Stratten" <.....salesKILLspamspam@spam@PICBITS.COM>

> How do your partners cope ? ;-)
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> Dom

Well I'm just about to come out to my current girlfriend! I can't hide all
the bits and pieces scattered around my flat and she's visiting soon!!!
The kit car she knows about, the electronics and the R/C aeroplane are
secret at the moment!! The electronics I can hide, the 6 foot plane might
not be so easy.....
.....And they just think I'm a gent for not wanting to take them back to my
flat ;)

Ben

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2002\11\25@191005 by John Ferrell

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It is not easy to get along with my wife, but I suspect it is not easy to
get along with me either.
Finding the "right" partner and surrounding you life with an environment you
find comfortable is what it takes.
But then again, I have only been married for 42 years so I am still
learning...

John Ferrell
6241 Phillippi Rd
Julian NC 27283
Phone: (336)685-9606
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"My Competition is Not My Enemy"



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2002\11\25@200121 by Tony Harris

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Mine is VERY tolerant, but then again, I am very tolerant for her hobbies
(crafts, quilting, etc.)  -  plus, it's hard for her to complain when I can
fix our arcade games ;)  (then again, it's hard for me to complain when I
have a nice warm quilt to get under when i'm freezing ;)

-Tony

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2002\11\25@213314 by Josh Koffman

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Well, my girlfriend does get a bit annoyed at times. We live in
different cities for 8 months of the year, so for the most part I have
free reign. Thing is, the 4 months we're together, we're at her house,
so she rules. Generally it works out as I have a large workshop to do
with as I wish at work. So I do my building during the day. When I move
there full time, we're going to need a large house...in addition to all
my electronics and computer and the usual, she has numerous sewing
machines, a quilting machine setup (which I will one day build a PIC
add-on to), stores of fabric, toys, puzzles, and many many clothes.

She is fairly tolerant of what I do. Most of the time she is somewhat
interested in my projects, especially when she stands to benefit from
them. I help her out with her stuff, and she helps me out with mine on
occasion. We will need a huge house one day though...because we are both
gatherers :)

Josh
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William Chops Westfield wrote:
> How well does your partner put up with you using the house as a workshop,
> bits of electronic components getting trodden round the building
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> Of course, this requires a large house...  Can't wait for the kids to
> move out!

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2002\11\25@234932 by Chris Hunter

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My "hobby" is part of my profession, so my partner tolerates it quite well.
I have a fairly comprehensive electronic workshop at home, and as long as
the things under development don't spread beyond the door, peace is
maintained!

Chris

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2002\11\26@031050 by dr. Imre Bartfai

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I have persuaded my wife (36)  for 5 years to attend an EE course in the
technical college where I am teaching. She managed to get the diplom 2
years before (also w/o any delay). Now she is actively helping me in
soldering and routing PCBs. She often says me she could not imagine it
before (she worked in the architecture branche) but now she enjoys it. BTW
we have 2 small children so she could not attend another job as this
home-sitting one (rather a garage factory or whatever).

Regards,
Imre

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2002\11\26@072039 by Andy Kunz

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What nobody has apparently explained to you yet, Josh, is that even if it
were "your" house, it would be "her" house if she lived there, and you'd
still have to live by her rules.

Just ask us married guys ;)

Andy


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2002\11\26@074359 by Katinka Mills

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> How well does your partner put up with you using the house as a workshop,
> bits of electronic components getting trodden round the building, asking
> her/him to RRF in the middle of the night because they are taking up too
> much space in bed ;-)

> How do your partners cope ? ;-)

Lol, extremely well, most of my "hobby" is in the office (20' insulated sea
container in the back yard) she only gets upset when the kitchen table is
cluttered with a PC being built or my never ending stock spread around the
house ;o) I will take photo's and put them up on my website soon (I
promise).

Regards,

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2002\11\26@200226 by Josh Koffman

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Oh, I'm well aware. I've been trained well living in "her" house for 4
months of the year. That's why I have made it clear I need a room of my
own that she can't clean or rearrange or move about. Whether that
happens or not remains to be seen :)

Josh
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Andy Kunz wrote:
> What nobody has apparently explained to you yet, Josh, is that even if it
> were "your" house, it would be "her" house if she lived there, and you'd
> still have to live by her rules.

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2002\11\26@210936 by Andy Kunz

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You'll get one eventually.

It's called "the doghouse" and that's where I live.

Andy


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2002\11\27@130734 by M. Adam Davis

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She knew what she was getting into when we were dating, and has been
terribly nice about it.

My own rule helps, though, anything I leave outside my room is fair game
for the kids and wife.  Sometimes I leave work related computers and
equipment around (I had taken up nearly 1/3 of the living room with
computers, cables, boxes and receipt printers over the last week), but I
always clear it with her, and move them if she so desires it.

It also helps that I'm burning the candle at both ends by working full
time and attending 8-10 hours of school at the university of michigan.
I haven't done anything with electronics or PICs since I made my full
duplex bike intercom.  I've even received a free motorola 8-bit
evaluation board I've been carrying around in my pack hoping for a few
free minutes to hook it up and play with it.

As far as the actual workspace, we finished our basement (finished being
a relative term - no carpet or trim) last year an purposefully built a
workroom for my stuff.  It's small at 11' x 10', but it's set up well
enough that I can use it.

Curiosity may lead you to view the mess:
http://www.ubasics.com/adam/office/

BTW, I'm about to throw out some 80c196 boards, so if anyone wants them,
ask.

-Adam

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