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'[OT]: How to start an ISP'
2000\06\15@012638 by Dale Botkin

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Alan wrote:

>     Hi, my boss recently asked me to study the feasibility of us
> starting our own local ISP, and i have done some web searches but i'm
> not satisfied with what i've got and now i what to tap the expert
> knowledge of the residents here... What are the equipments needed to
> start a small ISP, the softwares and hardwares needed, the procedures
> in starting an ISP, strategies, techniques, suggestions, advices and
> tricks of the trades...Tutorials, urls and links are badly needed..

Speaking as a former ISP (and current network engineer managing more
bandwidth than most ISPs have for a large online company)... RUN. Do not
walk, run away as fast as you can.  Unless you really enjoy becoming PC
and Mac tech support for every computer-illiterate person within a 50 mile
radius, you really, really do NOT want to do this.  You don't want your
boss doing it either, because after he goes bankrupt you'll have to look
for another job, and that's a pain.

If you decide you DO enjoy wearing a pager 24x7, 365 days a year and never
want to play with PICs again, email me privately and I'll try to help.

Dale
(Did I mention it's not any fun?)
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The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..."
               -- Isaac Asimov

2000\06\15@013725 by David Huisman

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I'm a sucker for punishment and would like to know also.

Regards

David Huisman

2000\06\15@040924 by Don McKenzie

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David Huisman wrote:
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> I'm a sucker for punishment and would like to know also.
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> Regards
>
> David Huisman

David, I figure starting an ISP right now in Australia, when cable
Internet is set to explode across the country, is a little like buying a
drive-in movie house when you know video stores are just around the
corner.
Hey, even that was 20+ years ago.

I am about to leave my local ISP of 4 years service, because I go cable
on the 23rd of this month, and I am feeling a little sad for the future
of the gang that have given me excellent service during that time.

Nothing is forever! Well... OK Taxes and death! (I think)

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2000\06\15@162211 by Dale Botkin

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Don B. Roadman wrote:

> On 15 Jun 2000, at 14:07, Saeed Saeed wrote:
>
> > What about the satelite connections... does any one knows what it
> > requires to set one up?.. I tried to search for this on the internet,
> > and could not find any place to begin..
> >
> > Saeed A. Saeed
>
> Well, I could be wrong, but I'm going to take a wild guess here. I
> would think that you should start out with a Rocket. Or, at least
> publicise a contract for putting up a satelite and try to get nasa or
> ESA, or the chinese to bid on it. Then test it out. I dont think you
> should sell subscriptions before you have probed its bandwidth and
> verified that it works well.

Chuckle...  I could almost see that one coming.  Seriously, Saeed, the
expense might not be far off.  My understanding is that satellite time is
quite expensive, you pay by the bit AND by the channel.  Even if it's just
by the channel, the last guy I talked to said they had (I seem to recall)
a 16Kbit/sec downlink and a very low speed uplink that cost several times
what my direct T1 to a backbone provider cost.

I could be way wrong, but we didn't see any practical application other
than for extremely well-funded expeditions to extremely remote locations.

Dale
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The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..."
               -- Isaac Asimov

2000\06\15@234306 by Saeed Saeed

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All what I was talking about is setting up an internet connectivity using
dish antenna that would connect to a an internet backbone satellite.  I know
in some countries they provide such opportunities, especially where there
are large apartment complexes.  Where the landlord would provide the
internet connectivity using a satellite dish.  From what I have heard,
companies would charge 25000 to set one up (64KBPS for upstream and 128KBPS
for downstream) with a monthly fee of about 12000.

My question is, How do they do it.. and where can I learn more about setting
up such a system... with out getting NASA involved may I add.. :)
Saeed
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2000\06\15@235007 by Tim Hayward

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Pointe communications has done this in the past and you could probably get
information from them.

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All what I was talking about is setting up an internet connectivity using
dish antenna that would connect to a an internet backbone satellite.  I know
in some countries they provide such opportunities, especially where there
are large apartment complexes.  Where the landlord would provide the
internet connectivity using a satellite dish.  From what I have heard,
companies would charge 25000 to set one up (64KBPS for upstream and 128KBPS
for downstream) with a monthly fee of about 12000.

My question is, How do they do it.. and where can I learn more about setting
up such a system... with out getting NASA involved may I add.. :)
Saeed
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Don B. Roadman wrote:

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Chuckle...  I could almost see that one coming.  Seriously, Saeed, the
expense might not be far off.  My understanding is that satellite time is
quite expensive, you pay by the bit AND by the channel.  Even if it's just
by the channel, the last guy I talked to said they had (I seem to recall)
a 16Kbit/sec downlink and a very low speed uplink that cost several times
what my direct T1 to a backbone provider cost.

I could be way wrong, but we didn't see any practical application other
than for extremely well-funded expeditions to extremely remote locations.

Dale
---
The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..."
               -- Isaac Asimov

2000\06\27@093347 by Andy Howard

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> From: "Saeed Saeed" <sas76spamspam_OUTCORNELL.EDU>
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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [OT]: How to start an ISP


> All what I was talking about is setting up an internet connectivity using
> dish antenna that would connect to a an internet backbone satellite.  I
know
> in some countries they provide such opportunities, especially where there
> are large apartment complexes.  Where the landlord would provide the
> internet connectivity using a satellite dish.  From what I have heard,
> companies would charge 25000 to set one up (64KBPS for upstream and
128KBPS
> for downstream) with a monthly fee of about 12000.
>
> My question is, How do they do it.. and where can I learn more about
setting
> up such a system... with out getting NASA involved may I add.. :)

One company that offered satellite Internet connection was Hughes, the big
aerospace company, a quick search should turn them up. It was quite a bit
more expensive than my then employers were willing to pay and the idea was
quickly dropped.

There were other companies doing this too but it was a couple of years back
that I looked into this and I don't recall their details. I think most used
satellite downlink and POTS return. The claimed advantage was bandwidth, but
with cable and DSL being so cheap now there's probably no benefit.

If you want two way satellite there are a lot of regulatory issues to do
with uplinking in most countries.  For a temporary solution you can get
portable uplinks to e.g. Inmarsat that will give you dial-up ISDN
connections to anywhere, but the airtime cost is several dollars per minute.

If you do find any reasonably priced satellite data solutions I'd be glad to
hear about them.

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