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2002\11\05@184150 by Russell McMahon

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Be part of the international Internet security effort :-)

DShield

   - Provide information on latest concerted security attacks.
   - Can be helped by automatically receiving your firewall logs to aid
      creation of latest threat statistics and sources.

       http://www.dshield.org/


Auto upload software provided.

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2002\11\06@013250 by Roman Black

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Russell McMahon wrote:
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> Be part of the international Internet security effort :-)
>
> DShield
>
>     - Provide information on latest concerted security attacks.
>     - Can be helped by automatically receiving your firewall logs to aid
>        creation of latest threat statistics and sources.
>
>         http://www.dshield.org/
>
> Auto upload software provided.


Umm, so the hackers who can't quite get into
your system WILL be able to intercept your
firewall data sent out afterward?? Sounds
like a great way for hackers to fine-tune
their efforts and see what's working...
-Roman

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2002\11\06@022053 by James Newton, webhost

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All attacks (requests on ports that are not served) on PICList.com are
reported to dShield automatically.

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2002\11\06@023131 by James Newton, webhost

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Unless the hackers on your local network (e.g. cable or DSL with multiple
accounts on one gateway), they will not be able to "sniff" your outgoing
emails. The reporting software allows you to block reporting on attacks from
local (or any) IP address.

In any case, the ports that don't respond are easily identified by a port
scanner so they already know what you do and don't block.

BTW: Everybody should check their personal machines against the port scanner
"Shields Up!" at
http://www.grc.net This is Gibson Research? As in Steve Gibson? As in the
guy who wrote Spin Right? One very sharp dude. And doing a hell of a job of
blowing the whistle on some of the BS that other companies pull with regard
to security and privacy.

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2002\11\06@024621 by Dominic Stratten

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Would that be http://www.grc.com ? ;-)

I've just found an interesting medical website on grc.net

Dom
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2002\11\06@042952 by Russell McMahon

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> Umm, so the hackers who can't quite get into
> your system WILL be able to intercept your
> firewall data sent out afterward?? Sounds
> like a great way for hackers to fine-tune
> their efforts and see what's working...


Quite possibly:-)
The general thought did occur to me.

The broad choices, as in all such areas where one is under attack, is to
either hide in the dark behind closed doors (or hopefully closed firewalls)
and hope the baddies will go away, or join, albeit in ever so small a way,
with those taking action against them (Hamlet had a soliloquy on this *
:-) ).

The risk seems little enough in this case and the potential gains
(especially given the stream of would be invaders who seem to beat a path to
my door) to justify joining the contributors.


           Russell


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