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2002\03\19@110247 by M. Adam Davis

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The piclist list guide is here:
http://www.piclist.com/techref/listguide.htm

and says, as point 9,
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If you have a new application, graphic, or whatever that takes up more
than 1K you would like to share with everyone on the List, please don't
send it as an attachment in a note to the List. Instead, either indicate
you are have this amazing piece of work and tell people that you have it
and where to request it (either to you directly or to a web server
address). Many listservers, if a large file is received may
automatically delete (thrown into the "bit bucket") it and you may or
may not get a message telling you what happened.

If you don't have a web page of your own or one you can access,
requesting somebody to put it on their web page or ftp server is acceptable.
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The long standing policy is that attachments, HTML mail, etc are not
acceptable.  The admins are pretty forgiving about it, but I don't think
people understand that we are being given bandwidth to run the list from
MIT, on the order of 9GB/month (IIRC, I did the calculations awhile
ago).  /Each/ 1k message gets duplicated and consumes 2MB of bandwidth,
nevermind the much larger messages and attachments that get sent out as
well.

If each person could configure the list settings so they could choose to
receive or not receive attachments, and if someone was able to donate
20GB of bandwidth per month, then there would probably be very little
wrong with attachments.

As you mention below, though, this shouldn't be in the PIC topic.  Sorry
there's no rant topic.  ;-)

-Adam

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2002\03\19@165830 by michael brown

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> The piclist list guide is here:
> http://www.piclist.com/techref/listguide.htm
>
> and says, as point 9,
> ----------
> If you have a new application, graphic, or whatever that takes up more
> than 1K you would like to share with everyone on the List, please don't
> send it as an attachment in a note to the List. Instead, either indicate
> you are have this amazing piece of work and tell people that you have it
> and where to request it (either to you directly or to a web server
> address). Many listservers, if a large file is received may
> automatically delete (thrown into the "bit bucket") it and you may or
> may not get a message telling you what happened.
>
> If you don't have a web page of your own or one you can access,
> requesting somebody to put it on their web page or ftp server is
acceptable.
> ----------
>
> The long standing policy is that attachments, HTML mail, etc are not
> acceptable.  The admins are pretty forgiving about it, but I don't think
> people understand that we are being given bandwidth to run the list from
> MIT, on the order of 9GB/month (IIRC, I did the calculations awhile
> ago).  /Each/ 1k message gets duplicated and consumes 2MB of bandwidth,
> nevermind the much larger messages and attachments that get sent out as
> well.

I get it 1k * 2000 members = 2Mb.  Correct?

I can understand the concern, but I sure don't get the method.  Going by the
number of attachments posted to the list, I would venture to guess that
over-quoted message replies amount to at least 100 - 1000 times the storage
and bandwidth consumed by attachments.  It seems to me that the biggest
waste of space goes to over-quoted text and the incredible stacking piclist
signature lines attached by the list server.

Just my observations

michael brown

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2002\03\20@005546 by James Newton, webmaster

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Excuse me, but the list guidlines are at
www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/listfaq.htm
not
http://www.piclist.com/techref/listfaq.htm

The former is specific to the PICList the latter is a general
purpose list guide. If I have not made that clear on the site,
please tell me where I could improve it.

As I remember, the list automatically drops attachements over
some size... err... 10K or so? Mike? Dale? Help?

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2002\03\20@221524 by M. Adam Davis

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My bad...

-Adam

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