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'[OT]: HNY 20000002'
2001\12\31@010305 by Dale Botkin

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Brandon Fosdick <spam_OUTbfozTakeThisOuTspamGLUE.UMD.EDU> said:

> > 'scuse my asterisks
>
> <rant>
> Why do people do that? If you leave enough letters there to know what
> the word is, you might as well have just written it out. Not that it
> really matters, it just strikes me as silly.
> </rant>

'Cause one will get you booted off the list, and the other won't...  8-)

Dale

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2001\12\31@033142 by Jinx

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> 'Cause one will get you booted off the list, and the
> other won't...  8-)
>
> Dale

Cheers Dale, you &#(!**  #(_ (@!^!!  &* )#@$*). And I
mean that in a nice way :-O

OK, playing Russian Roulette with Admin aside, see
you next year !! Watch those roads

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2001\12\31@095107 by Dale Botkin

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Jinx <.....joecolquittKILLspamspam.....CLEAR.NET.NZ> said:

> > 'Cause one will get you booted off the list, and the
> > other won't...  8-)
> >
> > Dale
>
> Cheers Dale, you &#(!**  #(_ (@!^!!  &* )#@$*). And I
> mean that in a nice way :-O

Oh, I could tell!!  ;)

> OK, playing Russian Roulette with Admin aside, see
> you next year !! Watch those roads

I plan to stay safely home, curled up with a good wife & warm book...  or
something like that...

Dale

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2001\12\31@101423 by Milan Pavlica (YU7AEC)

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Dale Botkin wrote:

> I plan to stay safely home, curled up with a good wife & warm book...  or
> something like that...

Geez, now I see how lucky I am that I am still a student ;))))
Cheers!

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> Dale
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2001\12\31@171322 by Jinx

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> I plan to stay safely home, curled up with a good wife &
> warm book...  or something like that...
>
> Dale

Don't get your bookmarks mixed up

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'[OT]: HNY 20000002'
2002\01\01@143435 by Dale Botkin
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Jinx <spamBeGonejoecolquittspamBeGonespamCLEAR.NET.NZ> said:

> What is incongruous to me is that in 10,000 or more years,
> humans have evolved to be a cultured, inventive, communicative
> and inquisitive species, yet what was probably true those aeons
> ago is still true - the world still turns on greed, barbarism, and
> power. Little cheer germ aren't I ? ;-)

No, I have to disagree with you there.  I think you mistake "visible effect"
for "net effect".  Look at it this way...  time and erosion wear down a
hilltop.  It's slow, not very exciting to watch, but inexorable and can't be
stopped.  I will never live to see the hilltop gone, but I know for sure it
will eventually happen.

Now someone uses a few tons of TNT (or construction equipment or whatever) to
remove the hilltop.  Very dramatic, gets lots of attention, everyone notices
it.  Over the long term it doesn't change much, and in a few years you'll
never notice its effect.  Erosion, however, continues to do its thing.  In a
thousand years no one will know about the explosives, but even the casual
observer will note that erosion removed the hilltop.

Greed, barbarism and power are certainly of immediate concern, but generally
speaking only the good parts tend to survive for long.

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2002\01\01@155428 by Jinx

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> > ago is still true - the world still turns on greed, barbarism, and
> > power. Little cheer germ aren't I ? ;-)
>
> No, I have to disagree with you there.  I think you mistake "visible
> effect"
>
> Greed, barbarism and power are certainly of immediate concern,
> but generally speaking only the good parts tend to survive for long.

Maybe I take too much notice of the news - "If it bleeds it leads"
It depresses me sometimes that the first "good news" story
might not appear until the bulletin is just about over, and even then
it might just be some damn cutesy animal thing. 15 minutes for
sport and nothing for technology or arts ? Oh, please

NZ has just seen a spate of murders and a road toll that is
shameful, especially considering a lot were caused by speed
and alcohol. Together with news from the Middle East, it's
not a pretty sight

I think the human race will always be bedevilled by the struggle
between hawks and doves. The most abused substance in the
world ? Marijuana ? Crack ? E ? Heroin ? No. Testosterone. How
do you combat physiology ?

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2002\01\01@160218 by Alexandre Domingos F. Souza

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>between hawks and doves. The most abused substance in the
>world ? Marijuana ? Crack ? E ? Heroin ? No. Testosterone. How
>do you combat physiology ?

       Great quote, pal!


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2002\01\01@162544 by Jinx

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Testosterone has its good side too - powers egos to achieve

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2002\01\01@201825 by Reginald Neale

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  Joe said:

> > What is incongruous to me is that in 10,000 or more years,
> > humans have evolved to be a cultured, inventive, communicative
> > and inquisitive species, yet what was probably true those aeons
> > ago is still true - the world still turns on greed, barbarism, and
> > power. Little cheer germ aren't I ? ;-)


and Dale replied:

>No, I have to disagree with you there.  I think you mistake "visible effect"
for "net effect".



  Thanks Dale. We have to remember that in primitive societies, the meanest guy
  with the biggest stick runs everything. There are still too many
places in the
  world like that, but even though progress has not been as rapid as
we would like,
  there have been some gains.

  Reg

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2002\01\02@165953 by Peter L. Peres

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> Maybe I take too much notice of the news - "If it bleeds it leads"
> It depresses me sometimes that the first "good news" story
> might not appear until the bulletin is just about over, and even then
> it might just be some damn cutesy animal thing. 15 minutes for
> sport and nothing for technology or arts ? Oh, please

This only means that you're not a member of the democratic majority that
determines program ratings imho. Also would you like to be told that your
house is on fire, after a beatiful 30-verse poem is read to you in its
entirety, or before ?

I think that if you break down the population of a moderately large city
by news preferrences you will find that those who prefer the 'good'
(science, etc) news and programs can collect in a small cafeteria without
filling it entirely. This is probably normal.

> I think the human race will always be bedevilled by the struggle
> between hawks and doves. The most abused substance in the
> world ? Marijuana ? Crack ? E ? Heroin ? No. Testosterone. How
> do you combat physiology ?

By neutering everyone ? Who's first ? Look, trees, bees, ants and a couple
of other species have eliminated competition (among themselves, not with
*other* species) at the individual level to the point where they ...  are
now. They've been around for a long time. They don't go into space.  They
don't need computers. They don't need medicine. No individual is
important by itself. No individual has privacy. No individual owns
anything. The adaptability in front of serious changes in environment
is about zero. Heil the hive.

I could quote at least two social orders that tried to achieve this kind
of 'harmony' in the last 100 years, and several others who tried to
suppress public mores (like drinking and gambling) on a national scale,
along similar lines of thinking. You know what happened to them.

Peter

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2002\01\04@210039 by Dale Botkin

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Guys,

PLEASE use the correct topic tag for this if you must flog this topic any
more...  it should be [OT]: and not just [OT].  Thanks.

Dale
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2002\01\16@224723 by Jinx

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This is what countries should be doing - taking the p*ss out
of each other instead of bombing the sh*t out of each other

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0201/16/opinion/opinion5.html

"The way they're carrying on you'd thing they'd split the atom"

He knows they did ;-)

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