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'[OT]: Getting cell phone position'
2003\04\17@115315 by Robert Rolf

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Sure, if you're the local police and you have a court order...
The cellular provider -may- be able to track a cell phone if they've set
up their network to allow this, but you as a casual user will have
absolutely NO access to this information.

The E-911 initiative in the USA (to allow emergency services to
locate a phone to within 3 meters) hasn't been widely deployed
despite an FCC mandate to do so ASAP.

There is also a car theft system that uses cellular phone cell tracking
to help locate a stolen vehicle but they are limited to only
tracing 'stolen' vehicles, and do this with the full cooperation
of the cell network provider (who gets a fee for each trace).

See also
http://www.cell-loc.com/what_locating.html
but this requires the cooperation of the cell phone being tracked.

Robert


Rafael Vidal Aroca wrote:
>
>     Anyone knows if would be possible to know in wich cell is the cell
> phone currently "connect" in a way that we can track it?
>
> []s Rafael.

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2003\04\17@120802 by Alan B. Pearce

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>     Anyone knows if would be possible to know in wich cell is the cell
> phone currently "connect" in a way that we can track it?

You are probably better off having a dedicated cell phone unit connected to
a GPS receiver, so you can interrogate the GPS position using SMS

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2003\04\17@140736 by Rafael Vidal Aroca

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Robert Rolf wrote:

>Sure, if you're the local police and you have a court order...
>The cellular provider -may- be able to track a cell phone if they've set
>up their network to allow this, but you as a casual user will have
>absolutely NO access to this information.
>

   Ok, but if I were a cell phone company partner? Could it be done?
Could they use an standart communication protocol in order to my company
get tracking data?

   Is it legally correct? Or even the tel company have to get an
authorization to obtain the cell phones position?

>See also
>http://www.cell-loc.com/what_locating.html
>but this requires the cooperation of the cell phone being tracked.
>
>
   What do you mean by that? Is it possible to track a CDMA phone just
because it is enabled to be tracked? Isn't there any ohter requirements?

[]s Rafael.

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2003\04\17@151930 by Robert Rolf

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Rafael Vidal Aroca wrote:
> Robert Rolf wrote:
> >Sure, if you're the local police and you have a court order...
> >The cellular provider -may- be able to track a cell phone if they've set
> >up their network to allow this, but you as a casual user will have
> >absolutely NO access to this information.
>     Ok, but if I were a cell phone company partner? Could it be done?
> Could they use an standart communication protocol in order to my company
> get tracking data?

If you are a partner with the company, and the phone is actively
involved (e.g. no 'spy' stuff), then you can do what Cell-loc does.

>     Is it legally correct? Or even the tel company have to get an
> authorization to obtain the cell phones position?

If the target cell phone is co-operating, then it is legal to track
it.

As has been suggested, GPS and SMS messages are the simplest/least
costly way to go, and give you meter accuracies with minimal effort.

> >See also
> >http://www.cell-loc.com/what_locating.html
> >but this requires the cooperation of the cell phone being tracked.
> >
> >
>     What do you mean by that? Is it possible to track a CDMA phone just
> because it is enabled to be tracked? Isn't there any ohter requirements?

Yes, it is possible for your cell provider to track ANY turned on
cell phone. If the phone is cooperating, i.e. transmitting/measuring
info you can get down to meter accuracies rather than just which sector
the phone is in.

Please use one of the search engines to track down the many
ways that this is ALREADY done.

Robert

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