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'[OT]: Fuelless heater'
2002\02\25@180042 by Bob Barr

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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:50:16 +1300, Jinx wrote:

>I like this from
>
>http://www.fuelless.com/fUELLESS_HEATER.htm
>
>"it only uses the atomic atoms from the oil"
>
>As distinct from those other "non-atomic" atoms I guess
>
>First clue about the site is the spinning pyramid.
>
>Pyramidiots
>
>Second clue is that, rather than be the greatest benefactors
>to mankind the world has ever known, they sell plans and
>videos


LOL!! Where do you find this stuff??

I wonder if this device would give off enough heat to keep my garage
warm while I'm putting the finishing touches on my PIC-controlled
perpetual motion machine. :=)


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2002\02\25@181453 by John Marshall

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What is so intriguing about Fuelless is not the idiocy of the products,
but rather, contemplating the average IQ of their CUSTOMERS!! You know
that somewhere, out there on the ether, some Mortimer Snerd is going to
buy this stuff. I have seen this site for a couple of years now. They
wouldn't maintain it if some damn fool didn't order from them. Now there
is a customer list I would pay money for !!
JohnM

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2002\02\25@181900 by Tony Nixon

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Bob Barr wrote:

> I wonder if this device would give off enough heat to keep my garage
> warm while I'm putting the finishing touches on my PIC-controlled
> perpetual motion machine. :=)


Hey, I bought a perpetual motion machine the other day from a 'gadget'
shop for $20.00

It was a present for a friend of mine who tried to convince me over an
hour long phone call from Darwin to Melbourne that they were possible
and he had (bought) the plans to prove it.



PS - It only took a single 9V battery to run ;-)



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2002\02\25@182314 by Sean H. Breheny

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If I had more money(and a lot more free time), I might actually buy some
"plans" just to get a kick out of reading them! I wonder if that is where
they actually get most of their business?

Sean

At 05:10 PM 2/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
>What is so intriguing about Fuelless is not the idiocy of the products,
>but rather, contemplating the average IQ of their CUSTOMERS!! You know
>that somewhere, out there on the ether, some Mortimer Snerd is going to
>buy this stuff. I have seen this site for a couple of years now. They
>wouldn't maintain it if some damn fool didn't order from them. Now there
>is a customer list I would pay money for !!
>JohnM

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2002\02\25@182732 by Jinx

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> LOL!! Where do you find this stuff??

It was a link that John Marshall posted in the MDC1200 thread

http://www.fuelless.com/

> I wonder if this device would give off enough heat to keep
> my garage warm while I'm putting the finishing touches on
> my PIC-controlled perpetual motion machine. :=)

I think you've got more chance of over-heating with rage and
frustration after realising the US$495 No Mo' Fuel heater is a
piece of crap. But maybe that's their Machiavellian plan. "You
bought our heater, you got hot without needing fuel, shut the
#&^$#& up"

I mean, this is laughable

"The oil is only added one time for the life of the unit ! Then a
zinc rod is placed in the center of the inner drum, in return a safe
atomic reaction takes place which creates a strong chain reaction
within the atoms of the oil creating heat! We believe that a strong
magnetic flux also penetrates the inner metal drum and creates
an amazing amount of heat that is safe to use anywhere !"

I notice there's no mention for AEC certification or inspection and
I'd challenge "amazing". "Amazing" doesn't necessarily mean "large"
does it

"oil atoms" ? Is oil an element now ? Must be in the revised leftie
periodic table, right between "honey" and "joss-stick". Molecules
maybe, as if that makes a difference

Pons and Fleischmann must be kicking themselves. They buggered
about with exotic materials to claim a Cold Fusion success, yet all
they needed to do was raid the local auto repair shop for bits

Wonder if these guys know you can make an atomic pile out of
oil

http://www.mv.com/ipusers/zeropoint/

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dg/fusion.html

How long before that bottle of peanut oil in the pantry melts down ?

Sorry, am I sounding a little cynical ?

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2002\02\25@183355 by Tony Nixon

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Jinx wrote:
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> > LOL!! Where do you find this stuff??
>


I just wrote a PIC based ignition test program for a person who has
invented a new type of internal combustion engine. The software is
reasonably simple, just press up/down keys to adjust the advance so he
can see where the maximum output is at any RPM.

The interesting part is that he 'claims' that the motor runs 'cool' and
is extremely energy efficient. I saw the prototype and it certainly
looks wierd.


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2002\02\25@184433 by Bob Barr

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On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:31:07 +1100, Tony Nixon wrote:

>I just wrote a PIC based ignition test program for a person who has
>invented a new type of internal combustion engine. The software is
>reasonably simple, just press up/down keys to adjust the advance so he
>can see where the maximum output is at any RPM.
>
>The interesting part is that he 'claims' that the motor runs 'cool' and
>is extremely energy efficient. I saw the prototype and it certainly
>looks wierd.
>

I hope you got cash for the project and not royalties. :=)

Regards, Bob

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2002\02\25@185057 by Sergio Masci

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> What is so intriguing about Fuelless is not the idiocy of the products,
> but rather, contemplating the average IQ of their CUSTOMERS!! You know
> that somewhere, out there on the ether, some Mortimer Snerd is going to
> buy this stuff. I have seen this site for a couple of years now. They
> wouldn't maintain it if some damn fool didn't order from them. Now there
> is a customer list I would pay money for !!
> JohnM

Really... I have such a list I can sell you ;-)

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2002\02\25@185306 by Tony Nixon

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Bob Barr wrote:
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> I hope you got cash for the project and not royalties. :=)
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> Regards, Bob

I learnt that a long time ago for projects like this.

I transfer the project to your hand, you transfer the fee to mine. You
want anything extra, so do I.

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2002\02\25@185512 by Claudio Tagliola

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LOL! Scully, Mulder, come take a look at this:

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2002\02\25@190759 by Jinx

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> US Patents hidden to the world !

Hidden ? Maybe they should be clued in about

http://www.uspto.govt/

http://www.delphion.com/

or any moron with a search engine and 5 spare minutes

Jeez, these people talk a load of old bollocks

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2002\02\25@200529 by David P. Harris

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Hi-
Here's a quote:
"Rick has invented a way to get 25 times more free energy from a copper
coil of wire than ever thought possible!  "

Yeah, 25 x 0 = 0

David

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2002\02\25@201150 by Jinx

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> "Rick has invented a way to get 25 times more free energy
> from a copper coil of wire than ever thought possible!  "
>
> Yeah, 25 x 0 = 0

Touche

His blurb in the Scammers And Carnies Association
newsletter probably reads something like "Rick has
invented a way to 25 times more free money from
witless rubes than ever thought possible !"

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2002\02\25@203043 by Barry Gershenfeld

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>PS - It only took a single 9V battery to run ;-)

Small price to pay for perpetual motion, don't ya think ?  ;-)

B.

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2002\02\25@215459 by Barry Gershenfeld

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>If I had more money(and a lot more free time), I might actually buy some
>"plans" just to get a kick out of reading them! I wonder if that is where
>they actually get most of their business?
>
>Sean

What say we start a magazine?  Call it Scam Parade or something
cool-sounding.  Then we get to test these things, thereby giving
us an excuse to buy them.  Hey, we could probably sell advertising
to the same geniuses that cook up these things...

Barry

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2002\02\26@041417 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Now there
>is a customer list I would pay money for !!

You don't need to buy the customer list - just set up your own site selling
similar stuff - and then on sell the customer list you acquire :{}

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2002\02\26@043046 by Alan B. Pearce

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>Then we get to test these things, thereby giving
>us an excuse to buy them.

Oh no - they donate one so we can try it and say how well it worked ;))

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2002\02\26@105250 by Lawrence Lile

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Sorry, the subject line is mis-spelled - it is FOOL-less heater.

Google on "Free Energy" and you'll find every kook in the nuthouse, with
pyramid plans and the works.  I was reading one who claimed the best way to
evaluate whether a pyramid is working is to sniff it, and if the celophane
tape that holds it together smells a lot, then you've got a ringer!

I've got an interesting book called "Flim Flam" by James Randi.  Randi is a
stage magician, who knows the tricks of his trade well.  Years ago he
offerred a $100,000 prize for anyone who could prove, under controlled
conditions he monitors, that they actually can display any psychic powers.
Needless to say, the prize money has sat in the bank until it is now worth
$1,000,000, with plenty of takers but nobody who could produce the goods.

One example from the book, was a test of "water witchers".  He dug up a big
field, and buried water pipes snaking through it.  Then he covered them, and
carefully tilled the field so the pipes could not be seen from the surface.
All of the workmen who built the field were flown in from somewhere else,
and flown out, to eliminate any snitching.  A firehose stream of water goes
in one end, through the hidden pipes, and flows out the other into a ditch,
so everybody can clearly see the water is flowing under the field somewhere.
Half a dozen people with their copper rods or willow sticks wandered around
the field twitching and jerking, but none could trace the water pipes.  All
of them swore they had a "hit", until they saw the actual map of the pipe
versus their track.

It's a great book, fulla laughs.

--Lawrence Lile

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