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'[OT]: Engraving/hot stamping knobs?'
2000\09\22@170819 by Harold M Hallikainen

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       Trying to take advantage of the manufacturing expertise on the list...
We have a product where we have a bunch of slide pots that control
lighting channels in a DMX stream. The product is modular so we can build
systems of various sizes. This modularity makes it so we cannot
silkscreen the channel numbers on the panel since we don't know until the
sale comes in as to what channels a particular panel will control.
Further, we'd like to avoid stocking thousands of slide pot knobs, all
with the numbers we don't need today, and have none of the ones we DO
need today.
       So... I'm thinking we could get a machine to engrave or hot stamp the
numbers on the knobs. Can anyone suggest such a machine?

Thanks!

Harold



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2000\09\23@020756 by staff

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Harold M Hallikainen wrote:
>
>         Trying to take advantage of the manufacturing expertise on the list...
> We have a product where we have a bunch of slide pots that control
> lighting channels in a DMX stream. The product is modular so we can build
> systems of various sizes. This modularity makes it so we cannot
> silkscreen the channel numbers on the panel since we don't know until the
> sale comes in as to what channels a particular panel will control.
> Further, we'd like to avoid stocking thousands of slide pot knobs, all
> with the numbers we don't need today, and have none of the ones we DO
> need today.
>         So... I'm thinking we could get a machine to engrave or hot stamp the
> numbers on the knobs. Can anyone suggest such a machine?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Harold


Harold, there are a lot of firms investing in CNC machining
technology lately, but it is still a trifle expensive a
purchase to do what you need. BUT, most of the firms with the
CNC have excess capacity and will do small jobs for outside
customers quite happily.

I would ring aroung engravers/rubber stamp makers, they
commonly have a small machine and obviously do small detail
work. If you let them know it will be a regular deal
they should be happy to set it up and do them quickly
on demand.

Roman

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2000\09\23@074855 by Arthur Brow

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Try your Big Local Dept store they may still have a hot Foil Printer or 2,
they were used to do Sale Tickets as well as other things.
With Ink Jet printers these are relegated to the store cupboard and are
unlikely to be used again by the advertising department.
Seen loads of them in my other life as service engineer
Regards Art

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2000\09\24@080055 by steve

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You may want to have a look into "Tampo" printing. That's a brand
name but I can't remember what the generic term is.
It's the method used to print logos on pens and other give aways. You
make up a plate using a similar process home etching a
photo-sensitive PCB and the machine has a rubber pad that stamps onto
the plate to pick up the ink and then stamps onto your product.
It's ideal for small volume, multiple version work and is a lot less
hassle than silkscreening.

Steve.

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2000\09\24@235607 by Spehro Pefhany

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At 12:00 AM 9/25/00 +1200, you wrote:
>You may want to have a look into "Tampo" printing. That's a brand
>name but I can't remember what the generic term is.

Yes, "Tampon printing" or "Pad printing" is what it is called, generically.
The machines are very expensive for some reason. You can print
(including multiple colors) onto practically any surface. One company
used to demo them at trade shows by printing onto walnuts or golf
balls.

>It's the method used to print logos on pens and other give aways. You
>make up a plate using a similar process home etching a
>photo-sensitive PCB and the machine has a rubber pad that stamps onto
>the plate to pick up the ink and then stamps onto your product.
>It's ideal for small volume, multiple version work and is a lot less
>hassle than silkscreening.

Except it's only suitable for fairly small items, distorts the printed
image more than a "silk" screen (particularly if the "silk" is stainless-
steel mesh), and the machine is very expensive. I'm not sure the cleanup
is that much less than a silk screen of comparable size.

Best regards,

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2000\09\25@123351 by jamesnewton

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I saw an informercial the other night for a little machine that printed
pretty patterns on fingernails for about $60. It was a manually operated,
plastic, pad printer. In my TV induced delirium, it was several seconds
after the ad was off that I realized it would have been perfect for small,
low volume, overprinting of chip labels and I couldn't remember the product
name or manufacturer much less the web site or phone number.

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2000\09\25@152334 by Joe Bentz

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Harold - We have been using an Acromark machine for prox 15 yrs with very
little trouble. They are located in Berkley Heights, N. J. 07922
Joe
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'[OT]: Engraving/hot stamping knobs?'
2000\10\02@083736 by Alan B. Pearce
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>So... I'm thinking we could get a machine to
>engrave or hot stamp the numbers on the knobs.
>Can anyone suggest such a machine?

One of those engraving/milling machines for prototyping PCB's???

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2000\10\02@105652 by jamesnewton
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I saw an informercial the other night for a little machine that printed
pretty patterns on fingernails for about $60. It was a manually operated,
plastic, pad printer. In my TV induced delirium, it was several seconds
after the ad was off that I realized it would have been perfect for small,
low volume, overprinting of chip labels and I couldn't remember the product
name or manufacturer much less the web site or phone number.

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At 12:00 AM 9/25/00 +1200, you wrote:
>You may want to have a look into "Tampo" printing. That's a brand
>name but I can't remember what the generic term is.

Yes, "Tampon printing" or "Pad printing" is what it is called, generically.
The machines are very expensive for some reason. You can print
(including multiple colors) onto practically any surface. One company
used to demo them at trade shows by printing onto walnuts or golf
balls.

>It's the method used to print logos on pens and other give aways. You
>make up a plate using a similar process home etching a
>photo-sensitive PCB and the machine has a rubber pad that stamps onto
>the plate to pick up the ink and then stamps onto your product.
>It's ideal for small volume, multiple version work and is a lot less
>hassle than silkscreening.

Except it's only suitable for fairly small items, distorts the printed
image more than a "silk" screen (particularly if the "silk" is stainless-
steel mesh), and the machine is very expensive. I'm not sure the cleanup
is that much less than a silk screen of comparable size.

Best regards,

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