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In following Dale's lead in limiting and perpetuating the [OT] as well as keeping tags and content aligned, I changed the tag to something more apropos....and continued on... The Freudian overtones are oozing out between all the jesting on this topic. Aargh! Interestingly, PIC Assembly language is universal, is it not? - Nationaism is a nasty thing that fractures world society. Aluminium vs. Aluminum is better perceived as a change in flavor rather than "which (or who)is better?", a.k.a. the nationalistic view. Let's all say aluminium and we'll all be closer to becoming automatons. Quite honestly, I appreciate the different flavors of language & personality, etc....the variety makes life interesting. Besides, knowing when to use "shambles" or "meat market" helps to exercise the gray matter...(or is it grey???) ps: as a Noo-Yawka in Flahrda I found the paperback: "How to Speak Southern" most enlightening. Does anyone feel up to writing "How to speak PIC"? c > But that's not an entire nation mis-spelling > the name of an element in the periodic table > when the rest of the world can get it right! -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spam_OUTlistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

subject changed >> Well at least they changed the spelling to match the pronunciation. >> >> Not like saying "sodder" for "solder" >> >> and how about my favourite, Arkansas, and Kansas. > >Or Gloucestershire, or Worcester, or... > >8-) Yes as I pointed out in the following quote from an earlier mail >>It's always intrigued me why the language had to be "simplified" :-) >Ahh someone who has not lived in England. >How would you expect to pronounce Towcester. ???? >It is pronounced as "Toaster" - no wonder the Americans gave English >an overhaul, but then see my previous message on this :)) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Chris Loiacono wrote: > > I changed the tag to something more apropos....and continued on... > The Freudian overtones are oozing out between all the jesting on this topic. I didn't see anyone mention their mother?? ;o) There was a nice documentary on Freud on the history channel recently, seems although credited as "the father of modern psychotherapy" it was actually his partner's original work and years of research that Freud later joined and co-authored. What Freud DID do right was become very famous by promoting very controversial sexual theories in a most conservative period. I put him in the same category as Madonna; a little talent and a LOT of clever sexual marketing. Undoubtably ahead of his time. -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 03:19 Australia/Sydney, Chris Loiacono wrote: > In following Dale's lead in limiting and perpetuating the [OT] as well > as > keeping tags and content aligned, > I changed the tag to something more apropos....and continued on... I am curious as to which colonists you are referring to as arrogant? > Quite honestly, I appreciate the different flavors of language & > personality, etc....the variety makes life interesting. Absolutely! I learnt my Chinese in Taiwan, and it's amazing how many subtle differences have appeared on the mainland in just 50 years - oh, wait - they had a revolution too, as I recall! :-) > Besides, knowing when to use "shambles" or "meat market" helps to > exercise > the gray matter...(or is it grey???) Yes. You are correct. It's grey. And flavor is actually flavour. :-) I am sorry, but you can only appreciate the "arrogance" of such attitudes when you have been forced for many years to use a spell checker that was not designed for the country in which you purchased your Word Processor. Granted that Microsoft were fairly responsive (in hindsight) and have remained committed to UK and Australian dictionaries for their products, but there were quite a few years that we simply had to go without. We still paid for the privilege of a Spell Checker of course. Add to that, the bitching US companies used to do over pirated software in Asia - when the only copies of Operating Systems and Word Processors they sold were American English! It was amazing to watch how many genuine copies they sold when they actually produced software in the language for the market they were trying to crack? Why on earth would anybody pay $500 for a Word Processor that was not in their own language? Oh wait, - we Aussies were stupid enough to! :-) Right now, I type this on what is simply the world's most advanced Operating System - Mac OS X - but it seems that unless you are prepared to spell the way they do in Capurtino, California, you don't get a Spell Checker. To add insult to injury, the Mail app in v10.0 displayed my dates correctly. Now, with v10.2 (Jaguar), I am forced to endure American date formats when searching for my mails. That's my definition of arrogance. Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservspam_OUTTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

When it comes to date formats...what does logic say to you smallest division to highest? in that case dd/mm/yyyy ....unless of course your from the only country in the world that believes days are longer than months.....damn they must work hard over there.......the 'colonists' that were referred to aren't arrogant....they just like to spell correctly :-) I agree...it's the diff 'flavours' of humanity that make the world interesting...but.....if you wish to say you speak english at least have a go at getting it right.....otherwise say u speak american P.S Chris....do you really believe going to the effort to write whole words makes you arrogant? if so....y do you live in Sydney? P.P.S English WAS my worst subject at school funnily enough Jonathan > {Original Message removed}

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: > Right now, I type this on what is simply the world's most advanced > Operating System - Mac OS X - but it seems that unless you are prepared > to spell the way they do in Capurtino, California, you don't get a > Spell Checker. To add insult to injury, the Mail app in v10.0 displayed > my dates correctly. Now, with v10.2 (Jaguar), I am forced to endure > American date formats when searching for my mails. That's my definition > of arrogance. Well, quit complaining and just switch to that other major OS that was developed on Australia. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Jonathan, Well put. > When it comes to date formats...what does logic say to you smallest > division > to highest? in that case dd/mm/yyyy ....unless of course your from the > only > country in the world that believes days are longer than > months.....damn they > must work hard over there There is also an international date format that takes this into consideration, although it goes from highest from smallest, I think - yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss or something like that. I had a link, but I've lost it. > .......the 'colonists' that were referred to aren't > arrogant....they just like to spell correctly :-) Absolutely! In fact, I do not use an "Australian" dictionary. I prefer to use an original British dictionary. There is nothing wrong with the original language, and I'll use it - warts and all! :-) > I agree...it's the diff 'flavours' of humanity that make the world > interesting...but.....if you wish to say you speak english at least > have a > go at getting it right.....otherwise say u speak american Agree. > P.S Chris....do you really believe going to the effort to write whole > words > makes you arrogant? > if so....y do you live in Sydney? He doesn't does he? I though he said he was a New Yorker - living in Florida? > P.P.S English WAS my worst subject at school funnily enough Me too! :-) Then I had an excellent (Swedish) teacher in Year 10 - set me straight! Regards, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email KILLspamlistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

>There is also an international date format that takes this into >consideration, although it goes from highest from smallest, I think - >yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss or something like that. I had a link, but I've lost >it. Yes, it's called asctime() and every C library includes it. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------- Race Boats - spamBeGoneandyspamBeGoneRC-Hydros.com http://www.RC-Hydros.com Airplanes - TakeThisOuTandyEraseMEspam_OUTFlyingHobbies.com http://www.FlyingHobbies.com Electronics - RemoveMEandyTakeThisOuTMontanaDesign.com http://www.MontanaDesign.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservEraseME.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: > > Well, quit complaining and just switch to that other major OS that was > > developed on Australia. > > I'm sure that's the attitude that drives America's (present) dominance > in that market. Sort of like Detroit in the 60s :-) Well, seriously though -- there ARE alternatives. If you're not happy with the "world's most advanced OS", don't flippin' use it. Or better yet do something about it... I'm told it's pretty much BSD, I can't believe there's no way to change the flippin' date format if that's the case. Or are you just bitching because most mass-market consumer products to roll out of California don't make non-US markets a high priority? That really should not surprise anyone. Hell, they don't even make the thinking US population a priority. Welcome to the club. Dale --- PS - "Advanced" is not always "best" -- this morning I drove past some unidentifiable road kill in an "advanced" state of decomposition. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

LOL... I DID say english was my worst subject at school {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 11:52 AM > To: RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: "Those arrogant colonists!" > > > "unless of course your from the only country in the world ..." > > What? > > Do you perhaps mean: > > "unless of course YOU ARE from the only country in the world ..." > > RF Jim > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email EraseMElistservspamspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Dale, > Well, seriously though -- there ARE alternatives. If you're not happy > with the "world's most advanced OS", don't flippin' use it. If I wasn't happy with it, I would not put up with those two serious flaws. > Or better yet > do something about it... I'm told it's pretty much BSD, I can't > believe > there's no way to change the flippin' date format if that's the case. Oh, I'm sure there is a way to hack it. A major bitch with the last version (10.0 through to 10.1.5) was that you could not change the long date format that was displayed when you clicked on the clock - that never bothered me, but I believe that there was a hack for those that it annoyed. > Or are you just bitching because most mass-market consumer products to > roll out of California don't make non-US markets a high priority? Who said just California? :-) Well, I am afraid that there is a perception that if you do not reside in the land of the free, home of the brave, then you do get second rate (or worse) treatment. > That > really should not surprise anyone. Hell, they don't even make the > thinking US population a priority. Welcome to the club. OK, thanks! I should feel honoured! Sounds like a pub I visited in the US last trip. Forget the name - but you get your food thrown in front of you and a whole heap of abuse as part of their theme of the restaurants . I guess you guys know who I mean and the novelty has probably all worn off, but it was quite a fun night! :-) Cheers, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: > > Or better yet > > do something about it... I'm told it's pretty much BSD, I can't > > believe > > there's no way to change the flippin' date format if that's the case. > > Oh, I'm sure there is a way to hack it. A major bitch with the last > version (10.0 through to 10.1.5) was that you could not change the long > date format that was displayed when you clicked on the clock - that > never bothered me, but I believe that there was a hack for those that > it annoyed. Ohferheavenssake. Even Winblows lets you do THAT. > > Or are you just bitching because most mass-market consumer products to > > roll out of California don't make non-US markets a high priority? > > Who said just California? :-) Well, I am afraid that there is a > perception that if you do not reside in the land of the free, home of > the brave, then you do get second rate (or worse) treatment. This would possibly be because the products are first and foremost developed for the US market. Offshore sales are rarely a primary source of income, with a few exceptions. I'm sure most Australian brands gon't give a rat's ass whether I find them convenient to use, either (and rightly so). > OK, thanks! I should feel honoured! Sounds like a pub I visited in the > US last trip. Forget the name - but you get your food thrown in front > of you and a whole heap of abuse as part of their theme of the > restaurants . I guess you guys know who I mean and the novelty has > probably all worn off, but it was quite a fun night! :-) You ate at my in-laws????? Dale -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservSTOPspamspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 13:33:44 +1100, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: OK, thanks! I should feel honoured! Sounds like a pub I visited in the US last trip. Forget the name - but you get your food thrown in front of you and a whole heap of abuse as part of their theme of the restaurants . I guess you guys know who I mean and the novelty has probably all worn off, but it was quite a fun night! :-) Ah that reminds me of a Monty Python sketch - Is this abuse? No this is the department for arguments. -- cdb, spamBeGonebodgy1STOPspamEraseMEoptusnet.com.au on 12/11/2002 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email KILLspamlistservspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Sean, {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [EraseMEPICLISTEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 12:01 PM > To: @spam@PICLIST@spam@spam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: "Those arrogant colonists!" > > > Jonathan, > > Well put. > > > When it comes to date formats...what does logic say to you smallest > > division > > to highest? in that case dd/mm/yyyy ....unless of course your from the > > only > > country in the world that believes days are longer than > > months.....damn they > > must work hard over there > > There is also an international date format that takes this into > consideration, although it goes from highest from smallest, I think - > yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss or something like that. I had a link, but I've lost > it. > I've seen that format too and it sure as hell makes a lot more sense than the "other" one :-) > > .......the 'colonists' that were referred to aren't > > arrogant....they just like to spell correctly :-) > > Absolutely! In fact, I do not use an "Australian" dictionary. I prefer > to use an original British dictionary. There is nothing wrong with the > original language, and I'll use it - warts and all! :-) > Yes, me too, but I use the oxford dictionary....one of my forefathers edited a chunk of it....James Murray Although I do often succumb to a bit of good ol' aussie slang...but only to those who understand it to get a point across quickly {Quote hidden}> > I agree...it's the diff 'flavours' of humanity that make the world > > interesting...but.....if you wish to say you speak english at least > > have a > > go at getting it right.....otherwise say u speak american > > Agree. > > > P.S Chris....do you really believe going to the effort to write whole > > words > > makes you arrogant? > > if so....y do you live in Sydney? > > He doesn't does he? I though he said he was a New Yorker - living in > Florida? > My mistake, I misread the note on your reply....well that may well explain alot then <g> > > P.P.S English WAS my worst subject at school funnily enough > > Me too! :-) Then I had an excellent (Swedish) teacher in Year 10 - set > me straight! > I had crappy english teachers for most of high school except yr 9 and 10....although a bit....ummm...shall we say rough round the edges..( I remember her telling a mate of mine quote" DON'T F%#KING SWEAR IN MY CLASS!" )yr11 & 12 english teacher was ummm...politely 'horrid' <shudder) Best teachers I ever had were my physics and engineering science teachers...followed closely by Business studies > Regards, > > Sean > The Scots and Irish can really make a mess of english but the scots make good fighters n engineers...n the Irish well....I used to drink with a lot of irishmen(and ladies)..two things really stand out.....they can drink like no other race on earth and MAD AS F#%K! LOL but great people and s#@tloads of fun. Jonathan > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email spamBeGonelistservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Dale, > Ohferheavenssake. Even Winblows lets you do THAT. Oh, I forgot to mention. Mac OS X has a "System Preferences" - which is similar to Window's Control Panel and in there an "International Pane" - again similar to Windows. In there, my settings are correct. It's just that Apples own app - "Mail" chooses to ignore these settings. I am sure they will get around to fixing it one day. > This would possibly be because the products are first and foremost > developed for the US market. Offshore sales are rarely a primary > source > of income, with a few exceptions. Yes, but I would think some income. If they don't want the sale, then don't sell it to us in the first place. Then we WOULD develop our own own OS - something like "VegeOS" or "XXXXOS" which would give errors like; "Crikey! It appears that you have received an email without the .au extension! VegeOS would like to remind you that emails received from lands other than God's own earth may contain viruses or even worse - incorrectly spelt words that do not comply to that beaut shiela the Queen's own English!" Are you sure you want to open this email?" Click "Beaut" to continue. > I'm sure most Australian brands gon't > give a rat's ass whether I find them convenient to use, either (and > rightly so). You bought our beloved Vegemite from us, but you don't eat the stuff! :-) > You ate at my in-laws????? LOL! What's your wife's email address? :-) Cheers, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email TakeThisOuTlistservKILLspamspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

> When it comes to date formats...what does logic say to you > smallest division > to highest? in that case dd/mm/yyyy ....unless of course your > from the only > country in the world that believes days are longer than > months.....damn they > must work hard over there.......the 'colonists' that were Yes, that has always irked me, especially here in Canada since half the dates are the british way (dd/mm/yy) while the other half are the american way (mm/dd/yy). Really confusing when you get something like: 02/07/02, what is that? November 2nd, or February 7th? Sometimes context gives it away (say a jug of milk), but sometimes you just can't know. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservRemoveMEmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

My fellow colonists, only the oceans and languages separate us. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff" <TakeThisOuTpicstuffspamSDALCORN.COM> To: <PICLISTEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: "Those arrogant colonists!" > Jonathan, > > Well put. > > > When it comes to date formats...what does logic say to you smallest > > division > > to highest? in that case dd/mm/yyyy ....unless of course your from the > > only > > country in the world that believes days are longer than > > months.....damn they > > must work hard over there > > There is also an international date format that takes this into > consideration, although it goes from highest from smallest, I think - > yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss or something like that. I had a link, but I've lost > it. > > > .......the 'colonists' that were referred to aren't > > arrogant....they just like to spell correctly :-) > > Absolutely! In fact, I do not use an "Australian" dictionary. I prefer > to use an original British dictionary. There is nothing wrong with the > original language, and I'll use it - warts and all! :-) > > > I agree...it's the diff 'flavours' of humanity that make the world > > interesting...but.....if you wish to say you speak english at least > > have a > > go at getting it right.....otherwise say u speak american > > Agree. > > > P.S Chris....do you really believe going to the effort to write whole > > words > > makes you arrogant? > > if so....y do you live in Sydney? > > He doesn't does he? I though he said he was a New Yorker - living in > Florida? > > > P.P.S English WAS my worst subject at school funnily enough > > Me too! :-) Then I had an excellent (Swedish) teacher in Year 10 - set > me straight! > > Regards, > > Sean > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email RemoveMElistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservRemoveMEEraseMEmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: > > This would possibly be because the products are first and foremost > > developed for the US market. Offshore sales are rarely a primary > > source > > of income, with a few exceptions. > > Yes, but I would think some income. If they don't want the sale, then > don't sell it to us in the first place. Then we WOULD develop our own > own OS - something like "VegeOS" or "XXXXOS" which would give errors > like; Oh sure. I can picture this: Micro$loth (or whomever) announces they won't bother selling to Oz or NZ or wherever... imagine how THAT would go over. They'd be accused of trying to repress the Southern Hemisphere... when it's really both they're trying to repress. What a misunderstanding! 8-) > You bought our beloved Vegemite from us, but you don't eat the stuff! > :-) I've been wondering since 1981... just exactly WHAT THE HELL IS VEGEMITE? Yeast extract? Do you eat that stuff or make beer with it? > > You ate at my in-laws????? > > LOL! What's your wife's email address? :-) Actually I'm guessing it was Ed Debevic's in Chicago. I've not been there but my wife has, brought me a T-shirt in fact. Dale -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-request@spam@spamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu

On Mon, 2002-11-11 at 16:59, Sean Alcorn - PIC Stuff wrote: > Right now, I type this on what is simply the world's most advanced > Operating System - Mac OS X - but it seems that unless you are prepared > to spell the way they do in Capurtino, California, you don't get a > Spell Checker. To add insult to injury, the Mail app in v10.0 displayed > my dates correctly. Now, with v10.2 (Jaguar), I am forced to endure > American date formats when searching for my mails. That's my definition > of arrogance. Two thoughts: - Pretty cool what BSD UNIX can do with a pretty GUI, eh? - You're free to write an OS that has your spelling style and sell it to us. Good luck. (I didn't think creating an OS in your own language was arrogant... just because the rest of the world wants to buy it...) Nate, .....nate@spam@EraseMEnatetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestRemoveMEmitvma.mit.edu

> > Really confusing when you get something like: 02/07/02, what > > is that? November 2nd, or February 7th? Sometimes context gives it > > away (say > > a jug of milk), but sometimes you just can't know. TTYL > > Well, if I shared an apartment, I still wouldn't trust a jug of milk! > :-) > > But I thought Canada's biggest beef would be miles and kilometres - > especially if you live on the boarder! Not really, we're all kilometers here, only "oldtimers" still talk miles. :) (now I'm in trouble). This does sometimes confuse American visitors driving on our highways though. For example, on the highways we have a sign that says, say, 500m next exit. Some Americans read that as "500 miles", instead of the "500 meters" it's supposed to mean. Honest mistake on their part, I can understand how it's confusing. In fact a friend of mine drove through Michigan recently and noticed something strange, in some areas the road signs said something like "0.625 miles next exit", or some other strange number. He put it all together when he converted to metric and realized that that converted to 1km. Seems some areas of the states now plan their road signs in metric and convert the results to imperial! :) I found that funny. TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList .....piclist-unsubscribe-requestSTOPspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

Dale, > I've been wondering since 1981... just exactly WHAT THE HELL IS > VEGEMITE? > Yeast extract? Do you eat that stuff or make beer with it? As I understand, originally, we made beer, and the "Yeast Extract" was the crap left over. We could either a) feed it to the pigs or b) spread it on our bread. I have always assumed that a) didn't work out. The pigs turned their noses up at it and we went with plan b. Although the Yanks did buy it off us. What's that line in Miss Saigon? - "I can sell s**t to the Yanks and get thanks!" > Actually I'm guessing it was Ed Debevic's in Chicago. I've not been > there > but my wife has, brought me a T-shirt in fact. No. I was in Atlanta, Georgia. Not *too* far from Downtown. I'll email my host and find out. Cheers, Sean -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestEraseME@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

>Yes, that has always irked me, especially here in Canada >since half the dates are the british way (dd/mm/yy) while >the other half are the american way (mm/dd/yy). Really >confusing when you get something like: 02/07/02, what is >that? November 2nd, or February 7th? Because I have dealt with American businesses in the course of my employment in companies that use the "British" date format, I have got into the habit of using the word for the month, rather than writing an all numeric date, unless it is on a form that requests it in numeric form, and is giving the expected order of digits. Saves the potential angst of confusion :) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList spamBeGonepiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu

> Because I have dealt with American businesses in the course of my employment > in companies that use the "British" date format, I have got into the habit > of using the word for the month, rather than writing an all numeric date, > unless it is on a form that requests it in numeric form, and is giving the > expected order of digits. Saves the potential angst of confusion :) Yes! I correspond with people in Taiwan. I too now write eg 7 November 2002. This allows me to use d m y order and still not confuse the recipients :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList spamBeGonepiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTRemoveMEmitvma.mit.edu

yes I was soooooooooooooo tempted to say something about surfing....but.......:-)) {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [.....PICLISTRemoveMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Russell McMahon > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 8:35 PM > To: PICLIST@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: "Those arrogant colonists!" > > > > especially if you live on the boarder! > > Wouldn't he get annoyed? > > > RM > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > EraseMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestRemoveMESTOPspammitvma.mit.edu > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspamTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu

If I wasn't averse to dying I would give Niagara a go on a jet ski....but alas....:-/ {Quote hidden}> -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Alan B. Pearce > Sent: Tuesday, 12 November 2002 9:00 PM > To: PICLISTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [OT]: "Those arrogant colonists!" > > > >yes I was soooooooooooooo tempted to say something about > >surfing....but.......:-)) > > >> especially if you live on the boarder! > > Some wave at Niagara to go surfing on though .... {8-)))) > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList > spam_OUTpiclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu