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'[OT]:: What language is used for the 2nd part of t'
2011\03\02@220300 by RussellMc

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this query has NO value at all apart from being of interest.
The passage referenced below appears to be in Russian throughout BUT
something changes hald\f way through and straight 'Russian" translation
fails.
What are the two languages?
What is the change half way through?
Why is this done?
Why am I not working? (I was  - the quote search was part of "work" but the
translation followup isn't.

For reasons irrelevant I searched for 'Lasciate ogni baldanza voi che
entrate" (Foster's "Celestial Omnibus" variant on Dante's "lasciate ogni
speranza voi che entrate"

I found this page


http://www.e-reading.org.ua/bookreader.php/60472/Nebesnyii_omnibus.html

About the first half is translated without exceptions by Gaggol's translate
program using Russian,. Belarusian (interestingly, one 's"), & Ukranian.

And, at a venture, not by Lithuanian, Estonian, Slovak, Azerbaijani (alpha),
and a few more.

Using "detect language" handles the lot OK.
But 'mouse over' in the second half provides a box which talks about the
'original Russian text".

Neither half translates exceptionally well into English - good enough
considering. Knowing what is being said would be a distinct. The second half
may perhaps be a worse translation, but maybe not.


             Russel

2011\03\02@222607 by John Gardner

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www.studyrussian.com/MGU/general_about_Russian_language.html

Perhaps, like German, the Russian language has changed significantly in
the last few centuries..

2011\03\02@223627 by RussellMc

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> http://www.studyrussian.com/MGU/general_about_Russian_language.html
>
> Perhaps, like German, the Russian language has changed significantly in
> the last few centuries...

Seems essentially certain..

But the text in question changes suddenly hald ay down.
Top half translates using "Russian". Bottom half dinna.

Using "detect language" gives 'full" translation but I did not find a
manually selectable language that would translate the 2nd half. It MAY
be there, but it seems more likely that G' is 'hiding' a translation
choice from manual access for whatever reason.


2011\03\02@223745 by Oli Glaser

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On 03/03/2011 03:02, RussellMc wrote:
> Using "detect language" handles the lot OK.
> But 'mouse over' in the second half provides a box which talks about the
> 'original Russian text".
>
> Neither half translates exceptionally well into English - good enough
> considering. Knowing what is being said would be a distinct. The second half
> may perhaps be a worse translation, but maybe not.

Seems to work okay for me using either Russian or Belarusian all the way through - almost quite readable. The mouse over just provides the original text for me (anywhere)

2011\03\02@230102 by John Gardner

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Perhaps Vasiliy will comment - He's a literate sort..

2011\03\03@003120 by RussellMc

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> > Using "detect language" handles the lot OK.
> > But 'mouse over' in the second half provides a box which talks about the
> > 'original Russian text".

> Seems to work okay for me using either Russian or Belarusian all the way
> through - almost quite readable. The mouse over just provides the
> original text for me (anywhere)

Very interesting.
To "don't be evil" add, perhaps, "don't be consistent".
I translated it number of times and in evry case either got no match
or to half only translating..

I copied my original to Vitaliy when posting.



2011\03\03@003634 by RussellMc

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Tried it again using first the offered page translate feature - worked
fully - and then by copying the page address to Gaggloyle translate
and using "Russian" - also worked fully.

Looks like it was a bug in the mind of the ghost in the machine. Interesting.


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