Post by thread:[OT]:: The sound of Pi

On 30 May 2012 06:17, RussellMc <.....apptechnzKILLspam@spam@gmail.com> wrote: >> http://www.wimp.com/pisounds/ >> I didn't see where the 9 and maybe the 0 come from. >> Should it matter:-). > That's so arbitrary, it's ridiculous. They might as well play the constant e. Yes. That's the point. I imagine they will attempt e once they have gained enough experience to do it well from playing Pi. The music is truly transcendant. Or, should that be transcendental? Russel

> On 30 May 2012 06:17, RussellMc <apptechnzKILLspamgmail.com> wrote: > >> http://www.wimp.com/pisounds/ > > >> I didn't see where the 9 and maybe the 0 come from. > >> Should it matter:-). > > > That's so arbitrary, it's ridiculous. They might as well play the constant > e. > > Yes. That's the point. > I imagine they will attempt e once they have gained enough experience > to do it well from playing Pi. > > The music is truly transcendant. > Or, should that be transcendental? > Perhaps irrational? How about the golden ratio (phi) or tau (2*pi)? And if they only have numbers from 1 to 8 they should convert it to an octal number. /Ruben =========================================== Ruben Jönsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124 200 39 Malmö Sweden http://www.liros.se Tel +46 40142078 ============================================

BCCs: just for fun - how engineers waste their time ... >> http://www.wimp.com/pisounds/ >> I didn't see where the 9 and maybe the 0 come from. >> Should it matter:-). > The mapping seems particularly arbitrary to me. After all, an octave more properly has 7 or 12 notes, not 8. > The natural thing to do would be to express PI in base 7 or base 12, and then map it onto the appropriate scale > Or to divide the octave into 10 tones. Though restricting the piece to one octave seems arbitrary as well. > Meh. I've played stranger pieces. (5th notes. gah!) (1) What well enough known tune's first 8 notes can be played as a one fingered descending one octave 'white keys' sequence? That sounds too hard. -> 8 white notes in unbroken descending sequence. (2) Have you ever been aware of this when you heard the tune, or played it? (3) If no, how many times would you have heard it? Russell

>(1) What well enough known tune's first 8 notes can be played as a one fingered descending one octave 'white keys' sequence? That sounds too hard. -> 8 white notes in unbroken descending sequence. >(2) Have you ever been aware of this when you heard the tune, or played it? >(3) If no, how many times would you have heard it? > Russell I am no musician, and I immediately knew the answer to this. 1) Not telling (in case anybody doesn't get it right away) 2) Yes 3) Gajillions -- Bob Ammerman RAm Systems

>>>>>>On Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:17:30 +1200 From: RussellMc <.....apptechnzKILLspam.....gmail.com> http://www.wimp.com/pisounds/ I didn't see where the 9 and maybe the 0 come from. Should it matter:-). >>>>>>> The music theory behind this begins as shown in the video: with the C major scale (C D E F G A B C) the notes are numbered 1 through 8. To make things simple music theory also numbers the notes that occur after the second instance of C (or 8 according to the numbering). So C D E F G A B C D E F G A would be numbered 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 and so as the notes keep happening. The reason for this becomes apparent when you go to give a chord a name. A C major chord has the notes of C, E, and G. Let's take a chord with am extra note of D above the octave C. This would be C9 or sometimes seen as Cadd9 because D is the 9th note in the series. Cadd2 would have the D after the first C. This allows the musician to determine which notes to play. Watch the video again and they should play the D above the octave C instead of the D above the first C used. This happens when the 9 appears with the note played. The number 2 should appear when they play D above the first C used. This should be easiest to see when the piano is on the screen. playinmyblues

I have long accepted that my thoughts are from the road less followed. I like every bit of the video. I am intrigued by the matter of the base sequence is derived from the number Pi. Since I still don't fully grasp the relationship between Pi and the 12 note scale, I may be easily fooled here. The music is well performed. It is well arranged (Mozart inspired?) Video production is very slick and professional. Of course, this team could probably make nearly anything that passes for music entertaining. I would except from that 3 minutes of an "E" or any cadence of square waves. My interest in music = f(math) is being rekindled... On 5/30/2012 4:12 PM, Bruce Fleming wrote: {Quote hidden}>>>>>>> On Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:17:30 +1200 > From: RussellMc<EraseMEapptechnzspam_OUTTakeThisOuTgmail.com> > > http://www.wimp.com/pisounds/ > > I didn't see where the 9 and maybe the 0 come from. > Should it matter:-). > The music theory behind this begins as shown in the video: with the C major scale (C D E F G A B C) the notes are numbered 1 through 8. To make things simple music theory also numbers the notes that occur after the second instance of C (or 8 according to the numbering). > > So C D E F G A B C D E F G A would be numbered 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 and so as the notes keep happening. The reason for this becomes apparent when you go to give a chord a name. > > A C major chord has the notes of C, E, and G. Let's take a chord with am extra note of D above the octave C. This would be C9 or sometimes seen as Cadd9 because D is the 9th note in the series. Cadd2 would have the D after the first C. This allows the musician to determine which notes to play. > > Watch the video again and they should play the D above the octave C instead of the D above the first C used. This happens when the 9 appears with the note played. The number 2 should appear when they play D above the first C used. This should be easiest to see when the piano is on the screen. > > playinmyblues > -- John Ferrell W8CCW “During times of universal deceit, Telling the TRUTH becomes a revolutionary act” George Orwell