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Win XP Pro: "MSDOS" suddenly reports "Access is denied" on many commend line DOS functions. Equivalent Windows capabilitynot affeted. Any ideas. Detail: ________________ I use MSDOS (or XP Pro compatability box or whatever) as a significant part of my PC activities. There are numerous things ssthaty can be done faster and/or better on the command line than in Windows proper and mixing and matching as trequired is the norm. As will be the case for various other dinosaurs here :-). My DOS has suddenly decided to prevent access to a number of previous capabilities and to return an "access denied" message instead. eg type fred.jpg + return at DOS prompt -> opens fred.jpg in file viewer. type jim.doc + enter -> run jim.doc in WinWord Start trev -> opens foilder TREV in Windows Explorer. start WORDPAD -> starts WORDPAD (funny that) and more. All now get "access denied" messages. ________________________ I've checked what's said on web by many. I'm running as supervisor. Creating a new supervisor account does not help Windows Firewall off. Comodo security suite (recently installed, prime suspect) allegedly OFF.(select program exit, icon vanishes) No other known security software running. More. Doing things like Explorer-Properties-security-permissions-select user- full control- advanced-various permissions stuff... works not. Haven't tried the somewhat suspect "Use REGEDIT32 to ..." yet. Have not done system repair. Recent install Comodo security suite (as above). Recent install DxO Optics Pro 7 64 bit. Small Windows LAN Any clues? Russel

system restore ... previous to last patch installs? RiB On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:02 PM, RussellMc <spam_OUTapptechnzTakeThisOuTgmail.com> wrote: {Quote hidden}> Win XP Pro: "MSDOS" suddenly reports "Access is denied" on many > commend line DOS functions. > Equivalent Windows capabilitynot affeted. > Any ideas. > > Detail: > ________________ > > > I use MSDOS (or XP Pro compatability box or whatever) as a significant > part of my PC activities. There are numerous things ssthaty can be > done faster and/or better on the command line than in Windows proper > and mixing and matching as trequired is the norm. As will be the case > for various other dinosaurs here :-). > > My DOS has suddenly decided to prevent access to a number of previous > capabilities and to return an "access denied" message instead. > > > eg type fred.jpg + return at DOS prompt -> opens fred.jpg in file viewer. > type jim.doc + enter -> run jim.doc in WinWord > > Start trev -> opens foilder TREV in Windows Explorer. > > start WORDPAD -> starts WORDPAD (funny that) > > and more. > All now get "access denied" messages. > > ________________________ > > I've checked what's said on web by many. > I'm running as supervisor. > Creating a new supervisor account does not help > Windows Firewall off. > Comodo security suite (recently installed, prime suspect) allegedly > OFF.(select program exit, icon vanishes) > > No other known security software running. > > More. > > Doing things like Explorer-Properties-security-permissions-select > user- full control- advanced-various permissions stuff... > works not. > > Haven't tried the somewhat suspect "Use REGEDIT32 to ..." yet. > Have not done system repair. > > Recent install Comodo security suite (as above). > Recent install DxO Optics Pro 7 64 bit. > > Small Windows LAN > > Any clues? > > > > Russell >

Hi Russell: Diagnostics over email could be difficult, but anyway...here is my 2cents. I have computing background, and had similar awhile back, I don't recall what the fix was (may not be the same anyway). However, I'm sure you would have tried a complete restart of the computer. Sometimes to start troubleshooting, try something known and simple like; Try this: DOS box: type> ipconfig then enter (you should get IP, of ones own machine) then, type> ping [ip of own machine..see below] then enter. Response received should be like shown below where xxx are numbers for your network. C:\(at prompt type)>ipconfig Should see IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Now ping the IP address shown of your local machine C:\(at prompt type)>ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Pinging xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with 32 bytes of data: Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Reply from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128 Ping statistics for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms Did this work? I don't he any experience with Comodo security, but I do have lots of DOS aka CMD console window as well as regedit32 experience. Sometimes antivirus programs do dumb things. Do other DOS-commands work? Can you open notepad from a CMD window C:\(at prompt type)>start notepad Did this work? Let us know the outcome. Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 28/05/2012 3:02 PM, RussellMc wrote: {Quote hidden}> Win XP Pro: "MSDOS" suddenly reports "Access is denied" on many > commend line DOS functions. > Equivalent Windows capabilitynot affeted. > Any ideas. > > Detail: > ________________ > > I use MSDOS (or XP Pro compatability box or whatever) as a significant > part of my PC activities. There are numerous things ssthaty can be > done faster and/or better on the command line than in Windows proper > and mixing and matching as trequired is the norm. As will be the case > for various other dinosaurs here :-). > > My DOS has suddenly decided to prevent access to a number of previous > capabilities and to return an "access denied" message instead. > > > eg type fred.jpg + return at DOS prompt -> opens fred.jpg in file viewer.. > type jim.doc + enter -> run jim.doc in WinWord > > Start trev -> opens foilder TREV in Windows Explorer. > > start WORDPAD -> starts WORDPAD (funny that) > > and more. > All now get "access denied" messages. > > ________________________ > > I've checked what's said on web by many. > I'm running as supervisor. > Creating a new supervisor account does not help > Windows Firewall off. > Comodo security suite (recently installed, prime suspect) allegedly > OFF.(select program exit, icon vanishes) > > No other known security software running. > > More. > > Doing things like Explorer-Properties-security-permissions-select > user- full control- advanced-various permissions stuff... > works not. > > Haven't tried the somewhat suspect "Use REGEDIT32 to ..." yet. > Have not done system repair. > > Recent install Comodo security suite (as above). > Recent install DxO Optics Pro 7 64 bit. > > Small Windows LAN > > Any clues? > Russell -----------------------------------------------------------------------

First check that you can still see the file or program in your file manager if the actual file or program is not showing or is showing as hidden, somehow the hidden and system flags could have been activated (how to puzzle people, go to a command line and type attrib +S +h *.* the PC will never boot again. Magic!). Check if your PC has suddenly changed it's network name, that is press WIN_BUTTON + PAUSE/BREAK if the computer name hasn't changed then select one recalcitrant file, right click select properties, then select the security tab, from here click on ADVANCED. From the PERMISSIONS tab select CHANGE PERMISSIONS, click on your user name and ensure the 'inherit permissions etc' is ticked, click on the ADD button make sure your user name has appeared and the OK out of the dialogue boxes. This can be performed per file or per directory or drive if needs be. Then check to make sure no nasty virii have infiltrated your system. Delete any restore points you might have as many nasties hide here as they are often immune to AV software in this special system folder. Colin -- cdb, .....colinKILLspam@spam@btech-online.co.uk on 28/05/2012 Web presence: http://www.btech-online.co.uk Hosted by: http://www.justhost.com.au This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named individual or Personnel Department, and public if addressed to a blog, forum or news article.

Windows XP has two command interpreters (shells): "command.com" and "cmd.exe" command.com is really a DOS application and runs in DOS compatibility mode. cmd.exe is indeed a Windows XP 32-bit application and serves the same task. The first cannot do a lot of thing that the second can. Perhaps you are using the wrong one? Isaac Em 28/5/2012 02:02, RussellMc escreveu: {Quote hidden}> Win XP Pro: "MSDOS" suddenly reports "Access is denied" on many > commend line DOS functions. > Equivalent Windows capabilitynot affeted. > Any ideas. > > Detail: > ________________ > > > I use MSDOS (or XP Pro compatability box or whatever) as a significant > part of my PC activities. There are numerous things ssthaty can be > done faster and/or better on the command line than in Windows proper > and mixing and matching as trequired is the norm. As will be the case > for various other dinosaurs here :-). > > My DOS has suddenly decided to prevent access to a number of previous > capabilities and to return an "access denied" message instead. > > > eg type fred.jpg + return at DOS prompt -> opens fred.jpg in file viewer. > type jim.doc + enter -> run jim.doc in WinWord > > Start trev -> opens foilder TREV in Windows Explorer. > > start WORDPAD -> starts WORDPAD (funny that) > > and more. > All now get "access denied" messages. > > ________________________ > > I've checked what's said on web by many. > I'm running as supervisor. > Creating a new supervisor account does not help > Windows Firewall off. > Comodo security suite (recently installed, prime suspect) allegedly > OFF.(select program exit, icon vanishes) > > No other known security software running. > > More. > > Doing things like Explorer-Properties-security-permissions-select > user- full control- advanced-various permissions stuff... > works not. > > Haven't tried the somewhat suspect "Use REGEDIT32 to ..." yet. > Have not done system repair. > > Recent install Comodo security suite (as above). > Recent install DxO Optics Pro 7 64 bit. > > Small Windows LAN > > Any clues? > > > > Russell

Colin Thanks for the advice. Alas, I've tried all that already :-( - but learned a few more thnigs alongh the way. And Windows_key-PauseBreak was new to me - I've always done it the hard way. Useful, thanks. Isaac - Yes, I'm using CMD.EXE. Interestingly, I just tried commamd .com (a long ago old friend) as as you say, it used to have SOME functionality in XP, and now it opens a WIndow / DOS box but does utterly nothing except allow you you close it by mouse click. Restore points - Comodo has allegedly been making these on and off of late BUT on looking I have but 2 and only a few days old. I do save full registry dumps occasionally and if needs must will try reverting to an earlier one. Russell I'll ask another question in another email. Russell. On 28 May 2012 21:27, cdb <colinKILLspambtech-online.co.uk> wrote: {Quote hidden}> First check that you can still see the file or program in your file manager > if the actual file or program is not showing or is showing as hidden, > somehow the hidden and system flags could have been activated (how to > puzzle people, go to a command line and type attrib +S +h *.* the PC will > never boot again. Magic!). > > Check if your PC has suddenly changed it's network name, that is press > WIN_BUTTON + PAUSE/BREAK if the computer name hasn't changed then select > one recalcitrant file, right click select properties, then select the > security tab, from here click on ADVANCED. > > From the PERMISSIONS tab select CHANGE PERMISSIONS, click on your user name > and ensure the 'inherit permissions etc' is ticked, click on the ADD button > make sure your user name has appeared and the OK out of the dialogue boxes. > This can be performed per file or per directory or drive if needs be. > > Then check to make sure no nasty virii have infiltrated your system. Delete > any restore points you might have as many nasties hide here as they are > often immune to AV software in this special system folder. > > Colin > -- > cdb, .....colinKILLspam.....btech-online.co.uk on 28/05/2012 > > Web presence: http://www.btech-online.co.uk > > Hosted by: http://www.justhost.com.au > > > This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named individual > or Personnel Department, and public if addressed to a blog, forum or news > article. > > > > >

64 bit? This PC is running a 3.2 GHz dual core Pentium D processor. A few days ago I downloaded DxO Optics Pro version 7.x software (free upgrade) This purports to be 64 bit and ll neweer and gancier and shining. I had my doubts about Pentium D and 64 bit but decided that DxO are real enough that the software would tell me if it did not like the CPU. This may have been an unwise decision :-). The software SEEMS to run well with nor problems. Casting a wide net, does this sound to anyone as a possible reason for the system to have changed into a mode where it does not like eg 16 bit apps - which I think older DOS commands etc are or were. OK COPY MOVE DIR Access is denied: xxxxx.jpg grep - Borland version from long ago IPCONFIG QBASIC SR.EXE :-) - long time since last use XXCOPY :-( Irfanviews_plugins ..... .EXE IView427_setup.exe Random selection of *.exe from \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32 >From c:\WINDOWS notepad.exe regedit.exe BUT most of the above can be run via START_key \ RUN \ command_name ie it's the DOS box level access that is barre

Start > Run >Command. Dir works, entering "Edit" brought up MS-DOS editor, and was able to open text (log) file from there. But "Ipconfig" works And this is XP PRO SP3, Dual core 3.0g Pentium D 930 Presler, which is 32 bit, not 64 bit! Same comment for CMD, except a different editor, but looks the same. And note ifconfig is a Linux equivalent of ipconfig. I get them mixed up too. On 5/28/2012 8:40 AM, RussellMc wrote: {Quote hidden}> Colin > > Thanks for the advice. > Alas, I've tried all that already :-( - but learned a few more thnigs > alongh the way. > And Windows_key-PauseBreak was new to me - I've always done it the > hard way. Useful, thanks. > > Isaac - > > Yes, I'm using CMD.EXE. > Interestingly, I just tried commamd .com (a long ago old friend) as as > you say, it used to have SOME functionality in XP, and now it opens a > WIndow / DOS box but does utterly nothing except allow you you close > it by mouse click. > > Restore points - Comodo has allegedly been making these on and off of > late BUT on looking I have but 2 and only a few days old. > I do save full registry dumps occasionally and if needs must will try > reverting to an earlier one. > > > Russell > > > I'll ask another question in another email. > > > Russell. > > > > On 28 May 2012 21:27, cdb<EraseMEcolinspam_OUTTakeThisOuTbtech-online.co.uk> wrote: > >> First check that you can still see the file or program in your file manager >> if the actual file or program is not showing or is showing as hidden, >> somehow the hidden and system flags could have been activated (how to >> puzzle people, go to a command line and type attrib +S +h *.* the PC will >> never boot again. Magic!). >> >> Check if your PC has suddenly changed it's network name, that is press >> WIN_BUTTON + PAUSE/BREAK if the computer name hasn't changed then select >> one recalcitrant file, right click select properties, then select the >> security tab, from here click on ADVANCED. >> >> ï¿½From the PERMISSIONS tab select CHANGE PERMISSIONS, click on your user name >> and ensure the 'inherit permissions etc' is ticked, click on the ADD button >> make sure your user name has appeared and the OK out of the dialogue boxes. >> This can be performed per file or per directory or drive if needs be. >> >> Then check to make sure no nasty virii have infiltrated your system. Delete >> any restore points you might have as many nasties hide here as they are >> often immune to AV software in this special system folder. >> >> Colin >> -- >> cdb, colinspam_OUTbtech-online.co.uk on 28/05/2012 >> >> Web presence: http://www.btech-online.co.uk >> >> Hosted by: ï¿½http://www.justhost.com.au >> >> >> This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named ï¿½individual >> or Personnel Department, and public if addressed to a blog, ï¿½forum or news >> article. >> >> >> >> >> -

RussellMc wrote: > OK! > Running again. > Rolled back to prior to DxO Optics install. > May not be what caused the problem. > TBD at some future date. > > Tried command.com again. > At first black screen of DOS with no text > After perhaps 20+ seconds of playing Comodo Firewall announced a > trapped call and allowing that gave DOs functionality. > A few calls that had not worked in CMD before workd here - but CMD is > also working now so I don't know if it would have helped me at all. > Onwards. .... > Hopefully Glad you're running again. FWIW, forget command.com. There's a reason why the "standard" shell on WinXP is cmd.exe. Unless you /really/ know what you're doing (and why), don't use command.com and just use cmd.exe. (Which is probably what you've been doing all along... :) I'm running lots of strange programs, and spend a lot of time in various shells, but I have never found a need to run command.com on the Win2k family. Gerhar