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Hey hows everyone going? Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, for the past day its seems to be pretty good. I often have a truckload of tabs open in my browser ( when I'm doing research I like to have all the info ready to my fingertips....so that it's totally relevant, lets say PIC research;-) and multiple windows as well(I'm normally a mozilla user) and this thing handles it even better than mozilla. I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? cheers, Jonathan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:21:02 +1100, Jonathan Johnson wrote: > I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else > tried it? I've been using it as my default browser for over a year now, in both Windows and Linux. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

I'm using it for long time now. An excellent browser! As a sugestion, take a look at the "extensions" available at the Firebird homepage. Lots of interesting features there. Mark On 3 Feb 2004 at 20:21, Jonathan Johnson wrote: {Quote hidden}> Hey hows everyone going? > > Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, for the past day its > seems to be pretty good. I often have a truckload of tabs open in my browser > ( when I'm doing research I like to have all the info ready to my > fingertips....so that it's totally relevant, lets say PIC research;-) and > multiple windows as well(I'm normally a mozilla user) and this thing handles > it even better than mozilla. > > I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? > > cheers, > > Jonathan > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> I'm using it for long time now. An excellent browser! > > As a sugestion, take a look at the "extensions" available > at the Firebird homepage. Lots of interesting features there. > > Mark I don't know how related they are, but I was using a few versions of Mozilla a year or two ago and they consistently CRASHED while accessing certain websites. And it wasn't a random occurrence, it was very predictable. Made me use Netscape instead, talk about yuk... I guess they've improved things? BTW it was on a SUN Unix platform, not sure which version of Solaris. TTYL ---------------------------------- Herbert's PIC Stuff: http://repatch.dyndns.org:8383/pic_stuff/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

At 08:21 PM 2/3/2004 +1100, you wrote: >Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, > >I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? > >cheers, > >Jonathan I started using it 2 weeks ago and now keep both it and MSIE available. I have chosen *NOT* to load it up with flash/java extensions. In this way, it is faster and even less susceptible to security violations. And without the extensions, you download it (6 meg zip file) and run - no installation required. Nothing in the registry. Why do I like it? The tabs as others mentioned. Probably the main thing is that it's font sizing actually works and works easily. Many sites choose fonts that are too small for me and do not allow them to be resized, somehow. I've tried in MSIE and it won't do it. With Firebird, hold down the control key and use the rollerball on the mouse (or +/- keys) and every font on *any* page will change. No more leaning forward and squinting. And it's been at least as stable as MSIE so far for me. Not perfect but the overall experience is better for my purposes. As the saying goes, ymmv. Tom -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Jonathan Johnson wrote: > Hey hows everyone going? > > Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, for the past day its > seems to be pretty good. <snip> > I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? Both Mozilla Firebird (browser) and Mozilla Thunderbird (mail client) are excellent quality software considering that they're both at 0.X version levels right now. I use both on a daily basis on a Mandrake 9.2 Linux system. They're fast, stable, and I'm impressed with the active development of plug-ins for Thunderbird (putting online/offline mail support into the software via a plug-in, for example). Firebird works great, stuff renders quickly and "correctly" (whatever that is -- look at some of the non-standard HTML crap that people coding for MSIE put out these days -- yuck), and it doesn't take forever to load like its previous Netscape cousins. Only real bug or problem I've found is that Thunderbird gets a bit confused by an older (i.e. should be upgraded, but hasn't been) version of Courier IMAP on a server and counts of new vs. read e-mail get a little out of whack until you restart it. No mail lost or anything like that and it only happens with this older Courier IMAP server. Nate Duehr, spam_OUTnateTakeThisOuTnatetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

I've been using it for awhile now. I've always prefered Netscape over IE, but the newer versions are so large and bulky(slow). My older version of netscape has started dying when it finds some webpages because of the code used in them. Haven't had that problem with Mozilla, YET! Jonathan Johnson wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Hey hows everyone going? > > Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, for the past day its > seems to be pretty good. I often have a truckload of tabs open in my browser > ( when I'm doing research I like to have all the info ready to my > fingertips....so that it's totally relevant, lets say PIC research;-) and > multiple windows as well(I'm normally a mozilla user) and this thing handles > it even better than mozilla. > > I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? > > cheers, > > Jonathan > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Herbert Graf wrote: > I don't know how related they are, but I was using a few versions of > Mozilla a year or two ago and they consistently CRASHED while accessing > certain websites. And it wasn't a random occurrence, it was very > predictable. Made me use Netscape instead, talk about yuk... I guess they've > improved things? BTW it was on a SUN Unix platform, not sure which version > of Solaris. TTYL You are correct that it used to crash and you are correct that things have changed. It is the other way now: Netscape crashing makes people use Mozilla. I use both Mozilla 1.6 suite and standalone Firebird mixed. The most important thing in Mozilla (and standalone Thunderbird mail client) is the efficient bayesian spam tool. Really a must if you do not have filtering on your email provider, and possibly even then it is good to have. -- Foreca Ltd .....Jaakko.HyvattiKILLspam@spam@foreca.com Pursimiehenkatu 29-31 B, FIN-00150 Helsinki, Finland http://www.foreca.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Jonathan, On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:21:02 +1100, Jonathan Johnson wrote: > Out of curiosity I have just started using firebird, for the past day its > seems to be pretty good. >...< > > I was just wondering what the general consensus is. Anybody else tried it? I've been using Firebird under OS/2 for some time, and I've just started using the Windows version when I have to. I find it excellent, with none of the flakiness that I've found in other browsers. Considering it's still at version 0.7 (described as a Beta test) it's remarkably good. Fast, too! I'd recommend it to anyone (in fact, I do! :-) Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

I've been using Mozilla Firebird since it was called Phoenix, and I've had very little trouble with it in all that time. There are a few things here and there that are a bit annoying but overall it's quite good. I'll take it over MSIE any day. > The most important thing in Mozilla (and standalone Thunderbird mail >client) is the efficient bayesian spam tool. Really a must if you do not >have filtering on your email provider, and possibly even then it is good >to have. > > I also use Thunderbird now (have been for about a month) and I like it in almost all respects. My one minor complaint about thunderbnird is that with full headers turned on, there is no ability to scroll so that you can see all of a really big header. As to spam filtering, I haven't tried out the Thunderbird filtering, but I do use POPFile. (popfile.sourceforge.net) It filters everything so well that I haven't bothered with any other filters. With that and privoxy (http://www.privoxy.org) the majority of web filth never reaches me. --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam.....mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Brendan Moran wrote: > I also use Thunderbird now (have been for about a month) and I like it > in almost all respects. My one minor complaint about thunderbnird is > that with full headers turned on, there is no ability to scroll so that > you can see all of a really big header. Here's what I do, I view the headers in normal mode. When I want to see what's in the full headers I select the mail (not double click) and type Ctrl-U (Control and u). This lets me see the entire file source. I found this very useful as I have html email turned off. -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry EraseMEncherryspam_OUTTakeThisOuTcomcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu

I agree with the others FireFox (recently renamed) is really good, fast, and useful. Definitely worth trying. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ However i still stick with Opera http://www.opera.com/ which i have been using since version 2.x and nothing i have tried i have liked as much. Mouse gestures (nowadays also in FireFox as plugin), multiple documents, true fullscreen, zoom, integrated notes, etc. The integrated email is like a database, quick to arrange through wiewpoints instead of maaging mailboxes and searching. I expect version 7.5 soon-to-be released to be even better. (Payware, or just don´t mind the smal ads in top right corner) Works on several OS brands. /Morgan -- Morgan Olsson, Kivik, Sweden -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

I have to agree on your opinion on Opera. I have used it for a year now and it's fast, intuitive to use and nice in all aspects. It's also very useful on my Mobile phone. Try it folks! /Ake -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: pic microcontroller discussion list [KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU]För Morgan Olsson Skickat: den 5 mars 2004 14:57 Till: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU Ämne: Re: [OT:] mozilla firebird I agree with the others FireFox (recently renamed) is really good, fast, and useful. Definitely worth trying. http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ However i still stick with Opera http://www.opera.com/ which i have been using since version 2.x and nothing i have tried i have liked as much. Mouse gestures (nowadays also in FireFox as plugin), multiple documents, true fullscreen, zoom, integrated notes, etc. The integrated email is like a database, quick to arrange through wiewpoints instead of maaging mailboxes and searching. I expect version 7.5 soon-to-be released to be even better. (Payware, or just don´t mind the smal ads in top right corner) Works on several OS brands. /Morgan -- Morgan Olsson, Kivik, Sweden -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email spamBeGonelistservspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email TakeThisOuTlistservEraseMEspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body